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From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] vfs: ensure that dentries are revalidated on open (try #2)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:54:07 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091118135407.45b3715d@tlielax.poochiereds.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091118173817.GE25150@elf.ucw.cz>

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:38:17 +0100
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> > > > This is the second attempt to fix this problem. The first one attempted
> > > > to fix this in procfs, but Eric Biederman pointed out that file bind
> > > > mounts have a similar problem. This set attempts to fix the issue at a
> > > > higher level, in the generic VFS layer.
> > > > 
> > > > In certain situations, when it knows that they are valid, the path
> > > > walking code will skip revalidating dentries that it finds in the cache.
> > > > This causes problems with filesystems such as NFSv4 and CIFS that depend
> > > > on the d_revalidate routine to do opens during lookup.
> > > 
> > > ...and it allows bypassing directory permissions. Could we fix both
> > > here?
> > 
> > Does it? Here's what I just did to check that:
> 
> Yes it does, see http://seclists.org/bugtraq/2009/Oct/179
> 
> 
> > # cp /bin/sleep /root/sleep
> > 
> > # ls -l /root /root/sleep
> > dr-xr-x---. 19 root root  4096 2009-11-18 07:20 /root
> > -rwxr-xr-x.  1 root root 29152 2009-11-18 07:20 /root/sleep
> > 
> > # /root/sleep 600
> > 
> > ...then as unprivileged user:
> > 
> > $ ps -ef | grep sleep 
> > (find pid of sleep program that root is running)
> > 
> > $ /proc/5258/exe 600
> > bash: /proc/5258/exe: Permission denied
> > 
> > ...it looks like directory permissions are respected here. Did I
> > misunderstand what you're concerned about?
> 
> /proc does not allow you to use /proc/XX/fd of unrelated users; it is
> another mechanism disallowing access. (Plus, I did my experiments with
> /proc/XX/fd, not /exe).
> 									Pavel

Thanks for the info. Took me a while to get through it but I read most
of the thread. I agree that it sounds like a very similar problem.

I'm beginning to wonder whether the right answer is to just make
these /proc symlinks behave more like normal symlinks. Get rid of
LAST_BIND and have follow_link turn the dentry into a path via d_path().

It's less efficient, but it means less special-casing in the path
walking code. I don't see /proc symlinks as being so performance
critical that we can't do it that way instead.

That still leaves the issue with bind mounted files not causing a
d_revalidate, but we can deal with that separately once the other issue
is resolved...

Thoughts?
-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-18 18:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-10 16:27 Jeff Layton
2009-11-10 16:27 ` [PATCH 1/2] vfs: force reval of dentries for LAST_BIND symlinks on open Jeff Layton
2009-11-10 16:27 ` [PATCH 2/2] vfs: force reval on dentry of bind mounted files for LOOKUP_OPEN Jeff Layton
2009-11-11  7:57 ` [PATCH 0/2] vfs: ensure that dentries are revalidated on open (try #2) Miklos Szeredi
2009-11-11  8:26   ` Trond Myklebust
2009-11-11  8:33     ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-11-11 12:17       ` Trond Myklebust
2009-11-11 12:36     ` Jeff Layton
2009-11-18  4:19 ` Pavel Machek
2009-11-18 12:29   ` Jeff Layton
2009-11-18 17:38     ` Pavel Machek
2009-11-18 18:54       ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2009-11-18 19:33         ` Pavel Machek

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