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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, fweisbec@gmail.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, anton@samba.org, hch@infradead.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Fixes for perf/scripting
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:19:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091130081951.GA20717@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1259565529-6407-1-git-send-email-tzanussi@gmail.com>


* Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@gmail.com> wrote:

> Tom Zanussi (4):
>   perf trace/scripting: silence PERL_EMBED_* backtick errors
>   perf trace/scripting: ignore shadowed variable warning for
>     perf-trace-perl.c
>   perf trace/scripting: fix Perl common_* access functions
>   perf trace/scripting: Add Fedora libperl install note to doc
> 
>  tools/perf/Makefile                                |    6 ++--
>  tools/perf/scripts/perl/Perf-Trace-Util/Context.c  |   30 ++++++++++----------
>  tools/perf/scripts/perl/Perf-Trace-Util/Context.xs |    6 ++--
>  tools/perf/scripts/perl/Perf-Trace-Util/README     |    4 +-
>  tools/perf/util/trace-event-perl.c                 |   10 ++++--
>  tools/perf/util/trace-event-perl.h                 |    6 ++--
>  6 files changed, 32 insertions(+), 30 deletions(-)

Applied, thanks Tom!

I tried a few simple things and it worked fine, so i put it into the 
permanent perf/scripting branch. I think this looks like a nice feature: 
a perfect fit to do rapid prototyping of tracing applets. (or just to 
use it for ad-hoc, programming based analysis of tracing data)

There's a few odd ends to 'perf trace' usability we need to fix before 
this can be merged into perf/core. For example if libperl isnt 
installed, 'perf trace' emits this warning:

 Perl scripting not supported.  Install libperl and rebuild perf to 
 enable it.  e.g. apt-get install libperl-dev (ubuntu), yum install 
 perl-ExtUtils-Embed (Fedora), etc.

We should only emit that if -g or -s is used - it's a nuisance in the 
other cases. Most distributions dont have libperl installed by default.

Also, a few simple examples and some heads-up about the power of 
scripting should be put into Documentation/perf-trace.txt as well. 
Something minimal - and it can include a Perl example as well. Some 
practical version of perl/Perf-Trace-Util/README or so. We want curious 
people who know Perl and try 'perf trace --help' to have some minimal 
entry vector into this space.

A third question is - right now we install the sample Perl scripts on 
'make install', but there's no mechanism to see the scripts that are 
available. 'perf trace -l/--list' might be useful?

I.e. the whole pathway of random perf users coming in and starting to 
use the script engine 'spontaneusly' and 'intuitively' is not yet 
thought through - the capabilities are hidden too much.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-11-30  8:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-30  7:18 Tom Zanussi
2009-11-30  7:18 ` [PATCH 1/4] perf trace/scripting: silence PERL_EMBED_* backtick errors Tom Zanussi
2009-11-30  8:23   ` [tip:perf/scripting] perf trace/scripting: Silence " tip-bot for Tom Zanussi
2009-11-30  7:18 ` [PATCH 2/4] perf trace/scripting: ignore shadowed variable warning for perf-trace-perl.c Tom Zanussi
2009-11-30  8:23   ` [tip:perf/scripting] perf trace/scripting: Ignore " tip-bot for Tom Zanussi
2009-11-30  7:18 ` [PATCH 3/4] perf trace/scripting: fix Perl common_* access functions Tom Zanussi
2009-11-30  8:24   ` [tip:perf/scripting] perf trace/scripting: Fix " tip-bot for Tom Zanussi
2009-11-30  7:18 ` [PATCH 4/4] perf trace/scripting: Add Fedora libperl install note to doc Tom Zanussi
2009-11-30  8:24   ` [tip:perf/scripting] " tip-bot for Tom Zanussi
2009-11-30  8:19 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-12-01  5:30   ` [PATCH 0/4] Fixes for perf/scripting Tom Zanussi

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