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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Mark Seaborn <mrs@mythic-beasts.com>
Cc: Michael Stone <michael@laptop.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, David Lang <david@lang.hm>,
	Oliver Hartkopp <socketcan@hartkopp.net>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	Valdis Kletnieks <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>,
	Bryan Donlan <bdonlan@gmail.com>,
	Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr@ioremap.net>,
	"C. Scott Ananian" <cscott@cscott.net>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Bernie Innocenti <bernie@codewiz.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Security: Add prctl(PR_{GET,SET}_NETWORK) interface.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:14:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091217171447.GJ9804@basil.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fb69ef3c0912170906t291a37c4r6c4758ddc7dd300b@mail.gmail.com>

> This is not very good because in some situations it is useful to disable
> connect() and bind() while still allowing ptracing of other processes.  For
> example, Plash creates a new UID for each sandbox and it is possible to use
> strace and gdb inside a sandbox.  Currently Plash is not able to block
> network access or allow only limited network access.  If you treat ptrace()
> this way we won't have the ability to use strace and gdb while limiting
> network access.

No that's not what the hunk does. I first thought the same. But it actually
just limits these processes from initiating ptracing themselves. You can still
attach gdb/strace to them.

Now I'm not sure if that's closing all holes, but at least I can't come
up with any obvious ones currently. I think I would still prefer a more
general security container in general.

-Andi
-- 
ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-12-17 17:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-13  3:19 Network isolation with RLIMIT_NETWORK, cont'd Michael Stone
2009-12-13  3:26 ` [PATCH] Security: Implement RLIMIT_NETWORK Michael Stone
2009-12-13  3:30 ` [PATCH] Security: Document RLIMIT_NETWORK Michael Stone
2009-12-13  3:44 ` Network isolation with RLIMIT_NETWORK, cont'd Michael Stone
2009-12-13  5:09   ` setrlimit(RLIMIT_NETWORK) vs. prctl(???) Michael Stone
2009-12-13  5:20     ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-12-15  5:33       ` Michael Stone
2009-12-16 15:30         ` Michael Stone
2009-12-16 15:32           ` [PATCH] Security: Add prctl(PR_{GET,SET}_NETWORK) interface Michael Stone
2009-12-16 15:59             ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-17  1:25               ` Michael Stone
2009-12-17  8:52                 ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]                 ` <fb69ef3c0912170906t291a37c4r6c4758ddc7dd300b@mail.gmail.com>
2009-12-17 17:14                   ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2009-12-17 22:58                     ` Mark Seaborn
2009-12-18  3:00                       ` Michael Stone
2009-12-18  3:29                         ` [PATCH 1/3] Security: Add prctl(PR_{GET,SET}_NETWORK) interface. (v2) Michael Stone
2009-12-18  4:43                           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-12-18 15:46                           ` Alan Cox
2009-12-18 16:33                             ` [PATCH 1/3] Security: Add prctl(PR_{GET,SET}_NETWORK) Michael Stone
2009-12-18 17:20                               ` Alan Cox
2009-12-18 17:47                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-12-24  6:13                                   ` Michael Stone
2009-12-24 12:37                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-12-24  1:42                               ` [PATCH 0/3] Discarding networking privilege via LSM Michael Stone
2009-12-24  1:44                                 ` [PATCH 1/3] Security: Add prctl(PR_{GET,SET}_NETWORK) interface. (v3) Michael Stone
2009-12-24  4:38                                   ` Samir Bellabes
2009-12-24  5:44                                     ` Michael Stone
2009-12-24  5:51                                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2009-12-24  1:45                                 ` [PATCH 2/3] Security: Implement prctl(PR_SET_NETWORK, PR_NETWORK_OFF) semantics. (v3) Michael Stone
2009-12-24  1:45                                 ` [PATCH 3/3] Security: Document prctl(PR_{GET,SET}_NETWORK). (v3) Michael Stone
2009-12-25 17:09                               ` [PATCH 1/3] Security: Add prctl(PR_{GET,SET}_NETWORK) Pavel Machek
2009-12-18  3:31                         ` [PATCH 2/3] Security: Implement prctl(PR_SET_NETWORK, PR_NETWORK_OFF) semantics. (v2) Michael Stone
2009-12-18  3:57                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-12-18  3:32                         ` [PATCH 3/3] Security: Document prctl(PR_{GET,SET}_NETWORK). (v2) Michael Stone
2009-12-18 17:49                         ` [PATCH] Security: Add prctl(PR_{GET,SET}_NETWORK) interface Stephen Hemminger
2009-12-19 12:02                           ` David Wagner
2009-12-19 12:29                             ` Alan Cox
2009-12-20 17:53                         ` Mark Seaborn
2009-12-17  9:25             ` Américo Wang
2009-12-17 16:28               ` Michael Stone
2009-12-17 17:23             ` Randy Dunlap
2009-12-17 17:25               ` Randy Dunlap
2009-12-16 15:32           ` [PATCH] Security: Implement prctl(PR_SET_NETWORK, PR_NETWORK_OFF) semantics Michael Stone
2009-12-17 19:18             ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-12-16 15:32           ` [PATCH] Security: Document prctl(PR_{GET,SET}_NETWORK) Michael Stone
2009-12-13  8:32   ` Network isolation with RLIMIT_NETWORK, cont'd Rémi Denis-Courmont
2009-12-13 13:44     ` Michael Stone
2009-12-13 10:05   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-12-13 14:21     ` Michael Stone
     [not found]       ` <fb69ef3c0912170931l5cbf0e3dh81c88e6502651042@mail.gmail.com>
2009-12-17 18:24         ` Bryan Donlan
2009-12-17 19:35           ` Bernie Innocenti
2009-12-17 19:53             ` Bryan Donlan
2009-12-17 19:23         ` Bernie Innocenti
2009-12-17 17:52     ` Andi Kleen

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