From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: "Bartłomiej Zimoń" <uzi18@o2.pl>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Anders Eriksson <aeriksson@fastmail.fm>,
Stefan Seyfried <stefan.seyfried@googlemail.com>,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, danborkmann@googlemail.com,
awalls@radix.net
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [suspend/resume] Re: userspace notification from module
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 00:05:17 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201001060005.17246.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <11f818a7.4b53f68a.4b43bb9b.b3a7f@o2.pl>
On Tuesday 05 January 2010, Bartłomiej Zimoń wrote:
> Dnia 5 stycznia 2010 22:26 Stefan Seyfried <stefan.seyfried@googlemail.com> napisał(a):
> > On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 10:07:06 +0100
> > Anders Eriksson <aeriksson@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > rjw@sisk.pl said:
> > > >> > I don't see a problem with this in principle, although I don't think signals
> > > >> > are very suitable for this particular purpose, because you need two-way
> > > >> > communication between the power manager and the processes it's going to
> > > >> > notify (because it has to wait for the processes to finish their preparations
> > > >> > and to tell it that they are ready).
> > >
> > > Wouldn't there need to be dependecy tracking for the userspace processes? A
> > > process couldn't signal "done" until it know there's no more work to do, which
> > > requires all other processes to finish up first.
> >
> > No. 99% of the processes don't care about suspend. They don't need
> > notifications or anything.
> > The few that do care, register themselves with the power manager. They
> > get notified before suspend and the power manager might wait until they
> > tell him that they are ready.
> > A special case are processes that only want to inhibit suspend - the CD
> > burning application case - they just tell the power manager "I am
> > important and you must not suspend now". They do this even if there is
> > no suspend notification, and once they are done with the critical part
> > of their work, they remove their "inhibit flag".
> >
> > This all works pretty well already, and is really not very complicated.
>
> So pm could be very simple, and i think we don't need more.
> I want ask You how usualy such user (not root) process notification is done,
> You are talking about pm-utils right?
Well, I think you have some specific issue with pm-utils, but you're not
telling us what it is. So, why exactly is pm-utils not suitable for your
needs?
Rafael
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-01-05 23:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-02 13:29 Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-02 14:04 ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-02 14:27 ` [suspend/resume] " Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-02 15:11 ` Oliver Neukum
[not found] ` <6f52f5b81001020713j5435cfadr1143806a9026adc2@mail.gmail.com>
2010-01-02 15:15 ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-02 15:40 ` Andy Walls
2010-01-02 15:56 ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-02 18:26 ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-02 21:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <7cf4f51f.5fc2a5cd.4b3fc3ad.c849c@o2.pl>
2010-01-02 23:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-03 17:20 ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03 21:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <65e5aef6.33251eb4.4b3fecf4.a2f99@o2.pl>
2010-01-03 9:30 ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-03 10:06 ` Daniel Borkmann
[not found] ` <43bd3f9d.71702a8b.4b407900.b542@o2.pl>
2010-01-03 21:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-04 13:38 ` Stefan Seyfried
2010-01-03 21:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-03 21:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <24fb84fa.38887c91.4b411ffd.e7f1f@o2.pl>
2010-01-03 23:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-03 23:35 ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03 23:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-04 0:51 ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-04 1:06 ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-04 19:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-05 9:07 ` [linux-pm] " Anders Eriksson
[not found] ` <7e89c5d.77f82021.4b43a8d7.127e1@o2.pl>
2010-01-05 21:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-05 22:12 ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-05 23:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <1ab86ec9.7bc73105.4b43cd45.c2747@o2.pl>
2010-01-06 14:35 ` Anders Eriksson
2010-01-06 20:37 ` [linux-pm] [suspend/resume] Re: userspace notific ation " Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-06 20:49 ` Roland Dreier
2010-01-06 20:56 ` Roland Dreier
2010-01-15 20:02 ` [linux-pm] [suspend/resume] Re: userspace notification " Pavel Machek
2010-01-05 21:26 ` Stefan Seyfried
[not found] ` <11f818a7.4b53f68a.4b43bb9b.b3a7f@o2.pl>
2010-01-05 23:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2010-01-04 12:46 ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-04 19:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-09 10:32 ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-09 13:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-15 20:03 ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-15 22:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-16 3:00 ` Eric Miao
2010-01-16 17:00 ` Stanislav Brabec
2010-01-16 18:12 ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-16 22:19 ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:25 ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-16 22:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-17 13:07 ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-17 13:26 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-01-19 5:15 ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:32 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-01-16 18:12 ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 18:12 ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-16 22:14 ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-02 21:20 ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-02 14:31 ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-06 1:05 [linux-pm] " Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-06 22:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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