From: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Cc: Robert Hancock <hancockrwd@gmail.com>,
Bastien Nocera <hadess@hadess.net>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
pjones@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Disable i8042 checks on Intel Apple Macs
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:34:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100125163433.GB31957@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100121221701.GA15293@core.coreip.homeip.net>
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 02:17:01PM -0800, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> This is from the changelog when this was introduced:
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2005/02/25 21:21:03+01:00 vojtech
> input: After testing on real world hardware, it's obvious we can't trust
> ACPIPnP nor PnPBIOS to properly report the existence of a keyboard
> and mouse port in all cases. Some BIOSes hide the ports if no mouse
> or keyboard is connected, causing trouble with eg. KVM switches.
>
> The i8042 driver now does read-only probing first, which should
> not cause any problems even if an i8042 controller really is not
> present.
>
> However, on IA64 we still need to trust ACPI, since legacy-free
> hardware is common there and invalid port accesses cause exceptions.
>
> Signed-off-by: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
>
> >> Input: Add ACPI-based i8042 keyboard and aux controller enumeration;
> > > can be disabled by passing i8042.noacpi as a boot parameter.
> >
> > On a whim I decided to turn on ACPI, only to discover that my keyboard
> > no longer worked. Passing i8042.noacpi=1 makes it work again.
> > Attached please find boot messages with and without the boot
> > parameter. Inlined below is a diff of the two.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I'm adding Vojtech in case he manages to recall what other failures he
> has seen.
I don't think I can really recall what other problems we've had back
then, but I do remember it was quite an avalanche of mails that I've
started receiving after enabling the PnPBIOS/ACPIPnP probing and
trusting it fully.
Now, from the hardware point of view it doesn't make much sense for the
BIOS to hide/disable the i8042 controller, as both the keyboard IRQ and
the 0x60-0x6f address space are reserved for it (since the IBM PC/AT
times) and no other hardware can make use of those on an x86
architecture.
And this means that even on a Mac there should be no hardware present on
these addresses if there is no i8042 and Apple is claiming x86
compatibility.
Thus I believe that the right fix here is to figure out why the accesses
to the ports 0x60/0x64 take a long time or forever on a Mac. Is it just
that the kernel is timing out waiting for the i8042? Or is it something
more sinister?
--
Vojtech Pavlik
Director SuSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-01-25 16:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-20 18:23 Bastien Nocera
2010-01-20 19:14 ` Justin P. Mattock
2010-01-20 19:37 ` Bastien Nocera
2010-01-20 19:54 ` Justin P. Mattock
2010-01-21 0:41 ` Robert Hancock
2010-01-21 1:31 ` Bastien Nocera
2010-01-21 2:19 ` Robert Hancock
2010-01-21 18:55 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-01-21 21:39 ` Robert Hancock
2010-01-21 21:42 ` Bastien Nocera
2010-01-21 21:49 ` Justin P. Mattock
2010-01-22 0:29 ` Robert Hancock
2010-01-22 1:20 ` Justin P. Mattock
2010-01-22 2:09 ` Bastien Nocera
2010-01-22 2:30 ` Robert Hancock
2010-01-22 2:53 ` Bastien Nocera
2010-01-22 2:31 ` Justin P. Mattock
2010-01-21 22:17 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-01-22 0:26 ` Robert Hancock
2010-01-22 17:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-22 18:15 ` Bastien Nocera
2010-01-22 22:33 ` Robert Hancock
2010-01-22 22:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-25 16:34 ` Vojtech Pavlik [this message]
2010-01-25 21:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-25 22:15 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-01-25 22:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-25 22:30 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-01-25 23:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-25 23:28 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-01-25 23:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-04 17:06 ` Bastien Nocera
2010-05-04 17:23 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-04 17:37 ` Bastien Nocera
2010-05-04 17:36 Bastien Nocera
2010-05-04 17:55 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-04 18:02 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-05 9:18 ` Bastien Nocera
2010-05-05 21:27 ` Kyle McMartin
2010-05-12 0:11 Bastien Nocera
2010-05-12 10:51 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-05-12 11:00 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-05-12 17:51 ` Dmitry Torokhov
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