From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755293Ab0BKDC4 (ORCPT ); Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:02:56 -0500 Received: from zeniv.linux.org.uk ([195.92.253.2]:44514 "EHLO ZenIV.linux.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751664Ab0BKDCz (ORCPT ); Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:02:55 -0500 Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 03:02:54 +0000 From: Al Viro To: Evgeniy Polyakov Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [WTF] ... is going on with current->fs->{root,mnt} accesses in pohmelfs Message-ID: <20100211030253.GQ30031@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> References: <20100210100428.GL30031@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20100210101246.GA3509@ioremap.net> <20100210102422.GM30031@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20100210104515.GA6207@ioremap.net> <20100210110011.GN30031@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20100210111115.GA8376@ioremap.net> <20100210115938.GO30031@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20100210133007.GA17744@ioremap.net> <20100210210248.GP30031@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20100210212933.GA19919@ioremap.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100210212933.GA19919@ioremap.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-08-17) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:29:33AM +0300, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 09:02:48PM +0000, Al Viro (viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk) wrote: > > Which would be... ? E.g. between writepages() and rename(). What serializes > > your write_inode_create() wrt renames? IOW, how can the server decide that > > data from writepages() should go to the same object regardless of the > > rename? > > rename and some other metadata operations as well as write itself > request remote lock (if not grabbed already), acknowledge forces writeback to old path. Um. You do realize that d_move() happens with none of your locks held, right? It's done in vfs_rename_{other,dir}() and the only thing held is s_vfs_rename_sem and i_mutex on parents. How could your code in writeback be able to distinguish rename() is done d_move() has happened, we see new pathname in dcache from rename() is done d_move() has not yet happened, we see old pathname in dcache and generate the right on-the-wire traffic in both cases? Note that here server has already seen rename request; as far as server and client are concerned the rename() is over.