From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@gmail.com>,
"linux-pm" <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
"linux-kernel" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] Is it supposed to be ok to call del_gendisk while userspace is frozen?
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 21:04:39 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201003042104.39600.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1003041432320.1305-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
On Thursday 04 March 2010, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>
> > On Thursday 04 March 2010, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Very well. Then we still need a solution to the original problem:
> > > > > Devices sometimes need to be unregistered during resume, but
> > > > > del_gendisk() blocks on the writeback thread, which is frozen until
> > > > > after the resume finishes. How do you suggest this be fixed?
> > > >
> > > > I thought about thawing the writeback thread earlier in such cases.
> > > >
> > > > Would that makes sense / is it doable at all?
> > >
> > > My thought exactly. This is the only approach that also solves the
> > > following race:
> > >
> > > A driver is unloaded at the same time as a suspend starts.
> > >
> > > The writeback thread gets frozen.
> > >
> > > Then before the rmmod thread is frozen, it calls del_gendisk.
> > >
> > > Delaying things by means of a workqueue (or the equivalent) might also
> > > work, but it doesn't seem as safe. For example, some important
> > > writebacks might end up getting delayed until too late.
> >
> > OK, so what exactly should trigger the thawing of the writeback thread?
> >
> > Should we do that unconditionally at one point or wait for a specific situation
> > to happen, and how to recognize that situation in the latter case?
>
> My thought was that del_gendisk would do this unconditionally. It
> would make the task unfreezable and then thaw it, to prevent a race.
>
> This assumes that del_gendisk never gets called in the middle of a
> sleep transition unless the device is really gone.
Well, I guess we can make it a rule.
Or use a flag that will be set to 'true' during resume (early) and will tell
del_gendisk whether to thaw the writeback thread.
Rafael
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-04 20:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-02-13 13:29 Maxim Levitsky
2010-02-15 16:00 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-02-15 21:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-02-16 16:27 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-02-20 22:22 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-02-23 12:33 ` Jens Axboe
2010-02-23 15:29 ` Alan Stern
2010-02-23 15:58 ` Jens Axboe
2010-02-23 16:33 ` Alan Stern
2010-02-23 22:16 ` Jens Axboe
2010-02-24 15:59 ` Alan Stern
2010-02-24 19:12 ` Jens Axboe
2010-02-24 20:19 ` Alan Stern
2010-02-23 16:42 ` Testing for dirty buffers on a block device Alan Stern
2010-02-23 22:13 ` Jens Axboe
2010-02-24 15:51 ` Alan Stern
2010-02-24 19:09 ` Jens Axboe
2010-02-24 20:09 ` Alan Stern
2010-02-25 8:20 ` Jens Axboe
2010-02-25 22:19 ` Dave Chinner
2010-03-01 6:35 ` [linux-pm] Is it supposed to be ok to call del_gendisk while userspace is frozen? Pavel Machek
2010-03-01 15:23 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-03 21:50 ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-03 22:23 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-04 0:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-04 2:48 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-04 19:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-04 19:36 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-04 20:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2010-03-04 20:15 ` Pavel Machek
2010-04-22 23:40 ` Matt Reimer
2010-04-23 5:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-11 23:55 ` Matt Reimer
2010-05-12 14:50 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-13 21:44 ` Matt Reimer
2010-05-13 21:54 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-13 22:20 ` Matt Reimer
2010-05-13 22:47 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-05-15 2:37 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-15 2:53 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-05-16 19:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-15 2:32 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-15 20:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-16 7:49 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-05-16 19:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-16 21:32 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-05-17 2:22 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-17 7:45 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-05-17 20:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17 22:51 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-05-18 19:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 20:06 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-24 19:02 ` Pavel Machek
2010-05-24 21:21 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-04 13:53 ` Pavel Machek
2010-06-04 11:20 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-04 14:59 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-04 15:19 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-04 17:52 ` Alan Stern
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