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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
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* Frank Ch. Eigler <fche@redhat.com> wrote:

> Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> writes:
> 
> > [...]
> > Distributions are very eager to update kernels even in stable periods of the 
> > distro lifetime - they are much less willing to update user-space packages.
> > [...]
> 
> Sorry, er, what?  What distributions eagerly upgrade kernels in stable 
> periods, were it not primarily motivated by security fixes? [...]

Please check the popular distro called 'Fedora' for example, and its kernel 
upgrade policies.

> [...] What users eagerly replace their kernels?

Those 99% who click on the 'install 193 updates' popup.

	Ingo