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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jon Masters <jonathan@jonmasters.org>
Subject: Re: Is module refcounting racy?
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 12:09:10 +0930	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201004061209.10647.rusty@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1004010852170.3707@i5.linux-foundation.org>

On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 02:25:59 am Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 1 Apr 2010, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > 
> > I think it can be done racelessly with my patch, which is not really too
> > much overhead. I think if this is considered too much, then we should
> > either fix code and preferably de-export and remove module_refcount from
> > drivers, or remove module removal completely.
> 
> I doubt your patch matters too much, but I like it conceptually and it 
> seems to be a nice basis for perhaps doing something clever in the long 
> run.
> 
> [ ie avoiding the stop_machine and instead perhaps doing some optimistic 
>   thing like "see if we seem to be unused right now, then unregister us, 
>   and see - after unregistering - that the usage counts haven't increased, 
>   and re-register if they have. ]

I dislike that we can see spurious failure for some random try_module_get
caller.

But perhaps that's inherent in module removal: someone can miss out, and if
you care, don't try to remove modules.

And grepping for try_module_get() reveals a suspicious (growing) number of
try_module_get(THIS_MODULE) which is almost always wrong.  If we're not
perfect, maybe we should aim for simple?

> So I'd like to apply it as a "good improvement, even if module unloading 
> which is the only thing that _should_ care deeply should already be under 
> stop-machine".
> 
> But I'd like an ack or two first.

Yep.

Acked-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

Cheers,
Rusty.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-06  2:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-18 10:55 Nick Piggin
2010-03-29  9:12 ` Rusty Russell
2010-03-29 16:58   ` Nick Piggin
2010-03-31  3:44     ` Rusty Russell
2010-04-01  8:09       ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-01 15:55         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-06  2:39           ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2010-04-06  5:05           ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-06  6:19             ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-06  7:38               ` Nick Piggin

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