From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Arch specific mmap attributes (Was: mprotect pgprot handling weirdness)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 15:03:45 +0900 (JST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100407095145.FB70.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1270592111.13812.88.camel@pasglop>
> On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 19:26 +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > > Ok, I see. No biggie. The main deal remains how we want to do that
> > > inside the kernel :-) I think the less horrible options here are
> > > to either extend vm_flags to always be 64-bit, or add a separate
> > > vm_map_attributes flag, and add the necessary bits and pieces to
> > > prevent merge accross different attribute vma's.
> >
> > vma->vm_flags already have VM_SAO. Why do we need more flags?
> > At least, I dislike to add separate flags member into vma.
> > It might introduce unnecessary messy into vma merge thing.
>
> Well, we did shove SAO in there, and used up the very last vm_flag for
> it a while back. Now I need another one, for little endian mappings. So
> I'm stuck.
>
> But the problem goes further I believe. Archs do nowadays have quite an
> interesting set of MMU attributes that it would be useful to expose to
> some extent.
Generally speaking, It seems no good idea. desktop and server world don't
interest arch specific mmu attribute crap. because many many opensource
and ISV library don't care it. I know highend hpc and embedded have
differenct eco-system. they might want to use such strange mmu feature.
I recommend to you are focusing popwerpc eco-system.
I'm not against changing kernel internal. I only disagree mmu attribute
fashion will be become used widely.
>
> Some powerpc's also provide storage keys for example and I think ARM
> have something along those lines. There's interesting cachability
> attributes too, on x86 as well. Being able to use such attributes to
> request for example a relaxed ordering mapping on x86 might be useful.
>
> I think it basically boils down to either extend vm_flags to always be
> 64-bit, which seems to be Nick preferred approach, or introduct a
> vm_attributes with all the necessary changes to the merge code to take
> it into account (not -that- hard tho, there's only half a page of
> results in grep for these things :-)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-07 6:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-06 5:09 mprotect pgprot handling weirdness Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-06 5:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-06 5:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-06 5:52 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-06 6:07 ` Arch specific mmap attributes (Was: mprotect pgprot handling weirdness) Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-06 6:24 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-06 7:30 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-06 10:26 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-06 22:15 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-07 6:03 ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2010-04-07 7:03 ` Arch specific mmap attributes David Miller
2010-04-07 7:14 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-07 7:18 ` David Miller
2010-04-07 9:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-07 8:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-07 8:56 ` Arch specific mmap attributes (Was: mprotect pgprot handling weirdness) Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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