From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
"Wu, Fengguang" <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH]vmscan: handle underflow for get_scan_ratio
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:55:52 +0900 (JST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100413175414.D110.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100413144519.D107.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>
> > > I'm surprised this ack a bit. Rik, do you have any improvement plan about
> > > streaming io detection logic?
> > > I think the patch have a slightly marginal benefit, it help to<1% scan
> > > ratio case. but it have big regression, it cause streaming io (e.g. backup
> > > operation) makes tons swap.
> >
> > How? From the description I believe it took 16GB in
> > a zone before we start scanning anon pages when
> > reclaiming at DEF_PRIORITY?
> >
> > Would that casue a problem?
>
> Please remember, 2.6.27 has following +1 scanning modifier.
>
> zone->nr_scan_active += (zone_page_state(zone, NR_ACTIVE) >> priority) + 1;
> ^^^^
>
> and, early (ano not yet merged) SplitLRU VM has similar +1. likes
>
> scan = zone_nr_lru_pages(zone, sc, l);
> scan >>= priority;
> scan = (scan * percent[file]) / 100 + 1;
> ^^^
>
> We didn't think only one page scanning is not big matter. but it was not
> correct. we got streaming io bug report. the above +1 makes annoying swap
> io. because some server need big backup operation rather much much than
> physical memory size.
>
> example, If vm are dropping 1TB use once pages, 0.1% anon scanning makes
> 1GB scan. and almost server only have some gigabyte swap although it
> has >1TB memory.
>
> If my memory is not correct, please correct me.
>
> My point is, greater or smaller than 16GB isn't essential. all patches
> should have big worth than the downside. The description said "the impact
> sounds not a big deal", nobody disagree it. but it's worth is more little.
> I don't imagine this patch improve anything.
And now I've merged this patch into my local vmscan patch queue.
After solving streaming io issue, I'll put it to mainline.
Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-13 8:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-30 5:53 Shaohua Li
2010-03-30 6:08 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-30 6:32 ` Shaohua Li
2010-03-30 6:40 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-30 6:53 ` Shaohua Li
2010-03-30 7:31 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-30 8:13 ` Shaohua Li
2010-03-31 4:53 ` Shaohua Li
2010-03-31 5:38 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-31 5:51 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-03-31 6:00 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-31 6:03 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-01 22:16 ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-02 9:13 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-06 1:22 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-06 3:36 ` Rik van Riel
2010-03-31 5:53 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-02 6:50 ` Shaohua Li
2010-04-02 9:14 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-02 9:24 ` Shaohua Li
2010-04-04 14:19 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-06 1:25 ` Shaohua Li
2010-04-06 1:36 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-06 1:50 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-06 2:06 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-06 2:30 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-06 2:58 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-06 3:31 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-06 3:40 ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-06 4:49 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-06 5:09 ` Shaohua Li
2010-04-04 0:48 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-06 1:27 ` Shaohua Li
2010-04-06 5:03 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-06 5:36 ` Shaohua Li
2010-04-09 6:51 ` Shaohua Li
2010-04-09 21:20 ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-09 21:25 ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-13 1:30 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-13 2:42 ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-13 7:55 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-13 8:55 ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2010-04-14 1:27 ` Shaohua Li
2010-04-15 3:25 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-12 1:57 ` Shaohua Li
2010-03-31 5:41 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-03-30 10:17 ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-30 10:25 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-30 11:56 ` Balbir Singh
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