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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, John Kacur <jkacur@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jan Blunck <jblunck@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@infradead.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] Pushdown bkl from v4l ioctls
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 09:10:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201004290910.43412.laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201004290844.29347.hverkuil@xs4all.nl>

Hi Hans,

On Thursday 29 April 2010 08:44:29 Hans Verkuil wrote:
> On Thursday 29 April 2010 05:42:39 Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Linus suggested to rename struct v4l2_file_operations::ioctl
> > into bkl_ioctl to eventually get something greppable and make
> > its background explicit.
> > 
> > While at it I thought it could be a good idea to just pushdown
> > the bkl to every v4l drivers that have an .ioctl, so that we
> > actually remove struct v4l2_file_operations::ioctl for good.
> > 
> > It passed make allyesconfig on sparc.
> > Please tell me what you think.
> 
> I much prefer to keep the bkl inside the v4l2 core. One reason is that I
> think that we can replace the bkl in the core with a mutex. Still not
> ideal of course, so the next step will be to implement proper locking in
> each driver. For this some additional v4l infrastructure work needs to be
> done. I couldn't proceed with that until the v4l events API patches went
> in, and that happened yesterday.
> 
> So from my point of view the timeline is this:
> 
> 1) I do the infrastructure work this weekend. This will make it much easier
> to convert drivers to do proper locking. And it will also simplify
> v4l2_priority handling, so I'm killing two birds with one stone :-)
> 
> 2) Wait until Arnd's patch gets merged that pushes the bkl down to
> v4l2-dev.c
> 
> 3) Investigate what needs to be done to replace the bkl with a v4l2-dev.c
> global mutex. Those drivers that call the bkl themselves should probably be
> converted to do proper locking, but there are only about 14 drivers that do
> this. The other 60 or so drivers should work fine if a v4l2-dev global lock
> is used. At this point the bkl is effectively removed from the v4l
> subsystem.
> 
> 4) Work on the remaining 60 drivers to do proper locking and get rid of the
> v4l2-dev global lock. This is probably less work than it sounds.
> 
> Since your patch moves everything down to the driver level it will actually
> make this work harder rather than easier. And it touches almost all drivers
> as well.

Every driver will need to be carefully checked to make sure the BKL can be 
replaced by a v4l2-dev global mutex. Why would it be more difficult to do so 
if the BKL is pushed down to the drivers ?

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-30 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-27  9:18 [PATCH 00/10] bkl: pushdowns from Arnd, and compile fixes John Kacur
2010-04-27  9:18 ` [PATCH 01/10] dvb: push down BKL into ioctl functions John Kacur
2010-04-27  9:18 ` [PATCH 02/10] scsi: " John Kacur
2010-04-27  9:18 ` [PATCH 03/10] bkl: Fix up compile problems in megaraid from bkl push-down John Kacur
2010-04-27  9:18 ` [PATCH 04/10] bkl: Fix missing inode tw_chrdev_ioctl due to bkl pushdown John Kacur
2010-04-27  9:18 ` [PATCH 05/10] bkl: Fix missing inode in twl_chrdev_ioctl resulting from " John Kacur
2010-04-27  9:18 ` [PATCH 06/10] isdn: push down BKL into ioctl functions John Kacur
2010-04-27  9:18 ` [PATCH 07/10] staging: " John Kacur
2010-04-27  9:18 ` [PATCH 08/10] v4l: always use unlocked_ioctl John Kacur
2010-04-27  9:18 ` [PATCH 09/10] drivers: push down BKL into various drivers John Kacur
2010-04-27  9:18 ` [PATCH 10/10] bkl: Fix-up compile problems as a result of the bkl-pushdown John Kacur
2010-04-27 11:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-27 11:54     ` John Kacur
2010-04-27 13:03       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-28 12:24         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2010-04-28 12:37           ` Hans Verkuil
2010-04-28 13:02             ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-04-28 14:46               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2010-04-28 14:55         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-28 21:52           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-29  3:42           ` [PATCH 0/5] Pushdown bkl from v4l ioctls Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-29  6:44             ` Hans Verkuil
2010-04-29  7:10               ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2010-04-29  7:38                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-05-01  9:55                 ` Hans Verkuil
2010-05-01 10:47                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-05-01 14:58                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-05-01 11:11               ` Alan Cox
2010-04-29  3:42           ` [PATCH 1/5] v4l: Pushdown bkl into video_ioctl2 Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-29  3:42           ` [PATCH 2/5] v4l: Use video_ioctl2_unlocked from drivers that don't want the bkl Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-29  3:42           ` [PATCH 3/5] v4l: Change users of video_ioctl2 to use unlocked_ioctl Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-29  3:42           ` [PATCH 4/5] v4l: Pushdown bkl to drivers that implement their own ioctl Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-29  3:42           ` [PATCH 5/5] v4l: Remove struct v4l2_file_operations::ioctl Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-27 11:31 ` [PATCH 00/10] bkl: pushdowns from Arnd, and compile fixes Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-27 12:19   ` John Kacur
2010-04-27 12:41     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-27 14:24     ` [PATCH 0/6] BKL pushdown into ioctl, continued Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-27 14:24     ` [PATCH 1/7] logfs: push down BKL into ioctl function Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-27 14:32       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-27 14:58       ` Jörn Engel
2010-04-27 15:05         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-27 15:09           ` Jörn Engel
2010-04-27 15:27             ` John Kacur
2010-04-27 15:32               ` Jörn Engel
2010-04-27 15:38                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-27 20:12                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-27 20:30                     ` [PATCH] logfs: kill BKL Arnd Bergmann
2010-05-19 12:51                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-27 15:36               ` [PATCH 1/7] logfs: push down BKL into ioctl function Linus Torvalds
2010-04-27 16:29                 ` John Kacur
2010-04-27 19:59       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-27 14:24     ` [PATCH 2/7] hfsplus: " Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-27 14:24     ` [PATCH 3/7] cris: push down BKL into some device drivers Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-27 17:22       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-30  7:53       ` Jesper Nilsson
2010-05-17  2:51         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-27 14:24     ` [PATCH 4/7] sn_hwperf: kill BKL usage Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-27 14:24     ` [PATCH 5/7] um/mmapper: remove " Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-27 14:24     ` [PATCH 6/7] coda/psdev: remove BKL from ioctl function Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-27 14:24     ` [PATCH 7/7] smbfs: push down BKL into " Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-27 12:40   ` [PATCH 00/10] bkl: pushdowns from Arnd, and compile fixes Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-27 12:51   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-04-28 21:18 ` Frederic Weisbecker

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