From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753653Ab0EOOhK (ORCPT ); Sat, 15 May 2010 10:37:10 -0400 Received: from isilmar-3.linta.de ([188.40.101.200]:42853 "EHLO linta.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753041Ab0EOOhI (ORCPT ); Sat, 15 May 2010 10:37:08 -0400 Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 16:37:05 +0200 From: Dominik Brodowski To: rmk@arm.linux.org.uk Cc: linux-pcmcia@lists.infradead.org, Alan Cox , "Robert P. J. Day" , Jaswinder Singh Rajput , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] pcmcia: disable pcmcia ioctl for !ARM, prepare for removal Message-ID: <20100515143705.GA10617@isilmar-3.linta.de> Mail-Followup-To: rmk@arm.linux.org.uk, linux-pcmcia@lists.infradead.org, Alan Cox , "Robert P. J. Day" , Jaswinder Singh Rajput , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20100303075944.GA23354@comet.dominikbrodowski.net> <1267603248-23866-5-git-send-email-linux@dominikbrodowski.net> <20100515142409.GB18960@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100515142409.GB18960@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Russell, On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 03:24:10PM +0100, Russell King wrote: > On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 09:00:48AM +0100, Dominik Brodowski wrote: > > Furthermore, the last legitimate use of the ioctl to be reported > > relates to the ARM architecture in 2008.[1] Attempts to resolve > > this issue turned out unsuccessful so far.[2] Other usages have only > > been reported as hear-say. If there are any legitiate and necessary > > use-cases remaining, please speak out before the end of the grace > > period until 2.6.3{5,6}(-rc1). > > What's the point of speaking out? You don't take any notice of people > who do, and you continue your crusade of wanting to remove it. Please, > stop giving the impression that you give a damn of what people say about > the ioctl interface. The _only_ person who really has spoken out is you. All my requests to actually see source code or actual use cases (e.g. which parts of the ioctl do actually get called) did not lead to _anything_. Over the past years, I've sent you quite some mails where I specifically asked you for such input, as it's you who speaks out against the PCMCIA ioctl removal. If you or anyone else sends me _substantiated_ information regarding continuing use cases for new kernels and the PCMCIA ioctl, I'm more than willing to re-think the plan to remove it. If all I receive are accusations, unsubstantiated or unfounded guesses, I will stick with this plan. Best, Dominik