From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754550Ab0EUBMG (ORCPT ); Thu, 20 May 2010 21:12:06 -0400 Received: from fgwmail6.fujitsu.co.jp ([192.51.44.36]:38186 "EHLO fgwmail6.fujitsu.co.jp" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752157Ab0EUBMD (ORCPT ); Thu, 20 May 2010 21:12:03 -0400 X-SecurityPolicyCheck-FJ: OK by FujitsuOutboundMailChecker v1.3.1 From: KOSAKI Motohiro To: Zan Lynx Subject: Re: RFC: dirty_ratio back to 40% Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, lwoodman@redhat.com, LKML , linux-mm , Nick Piggin , Jan Kara In-Reply-To: <4BF5D875.3030900@acm.org> References: <20100521083408.1E36.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> <4BF5D875.3030900@acm.org> Message-Id: <20100521100943.1E4D.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.50.07 [ja] Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 10:11:59 +0900 (JST) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > > So, I'd prefer to restore the default rather than both Redhat and SUSE apply exactly > > same distro specific patch. because we can easily imazine other users will face the same > > issue in the future. > > On desktop systems the low dirty limits help maintain interactive feel. > Users expect applications that are saving data to be slow. They do not > like it when every application in the system randomly comes to a halt > because of one program stuffing data up to the dirty limit. really? Do you mean our per-task dirty limit wouldn't works? If so, I think we need fix it. IOW sane per-task dirty limitation seems independent issue from per-system dirty limit. > The cause and effect for the system slowdown is clear when the dirty > limit is low. "I saved data and now the system is slow until it is > done." When the dirty page ratio is very high, the cause and effect is > disconnected. "I was just web surfing and the system came to a halt." > > I think we should expect server admins to do more tuning than desktop > users, so the default limits should stay low in my opinion.