From: Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>
To: Mike Habeck <habeck@sgi.com>
Cc: Mike Travis <travis@sgi.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
x86@kernel.org, Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>,
Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Patch 1/1] x86 pci: Add option to not assign BAR's if not already assigned
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 10:40:38 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201006021040.39378.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C067E73.2010005@sgi.com>
On Wednesday, June 02, 2010 09:53:23 am Mike Habeck wrote:
> Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > I'm still having trouble reconciling the stated purpose, i.e., the
> > changelog, with the behavior. The changelog implies that the patch
> > is required to make >16 devices with I/O BARs work at all, but per
> > Mike Habeck, the patch just gets rid of some warnings and maybe helps
> > with hot-add of devices using I/O space.
>
> greaterthan 16 devices will still work if the BIOS doesn't assign
> the I/O BARs and the kernel does (including the devices that don't
> get assigned due to the kernel running out of I/O Port resources).
> And when the kernel runs out of I/O Port space it will warn for
> those devices it couldn't assign: (example):
>
> pci 0002:03:00.0: BAR 5: can't allocate I/O resource [0x0-0x7f]
[For anybody else grepping for this message, it is now "can't assign",
not "can't allocate".]
> But if the kernel assigns all the I/O Port space to these devices
> we know don't need it (thus the reason the BIOS didn't assign it)
> then I believe hot-add of devices using I/O space will fail.
Yes, I understand and agree with this motivation, though I hope
"pci=nobar" is recognized as only a short-term workaround. I think
it's completely unacceptable in terms of the user experience. Using
DMI quirks to turn it on automatically removes some user pain, but
it's not a real solution and still leaves a maintenance problem.
How about if we write a changelog that mentions hot-add of devices
that need I/O space? :-)
> There is also the issue that quirk_system_pci_resources() thinks
> those unassigned I/O resources are using I/O port space 0x0-0xFF.
> Since the BIOS never assigned the BAR the kernel reads it as
> having a base of 0x0 and a limit of whatever the BAR size is when
> it writes all 1's to obtain the size. So that results in
> quirk_system_pci_resources() disabling pnp devices: (example):
>
> pnp 00:11: io resource (0x92-0x92) overlaps 0002:03:00.0 BAR 0 (0x0-0xff), disabling
[...]
>
> One could argue this is a quirk_system_pci_resources() issue and
> should be handled there rather than "zeroing out the resource if
> the bios didn't assign it" as the patch does, but what the patch
> is attempting to do (as stated above) is to allow the BIOS a way
> to not assign resources it knows are not needed and thus make sure
> the kernel doesn't override that... and in doing that the quirk
> issue goes away too.
This is definitely a problem, but I think it should be handled
separately. The fact that this patch makes the "overlap" messages
go away is a nice coincidence, but it doesn't fix the underlying
issue.
I think setting the resource start/end to zero to "disable" it as in
this patch (and elsewhere) is just a hack -- we no longer know the size
of the BAR, the struct resource no longer corresponds to the BAR contents,
and I don't think we do anything with the PCI_COMMAND_IO/PCI_COMMAND_MEM
bits to actually disable the BAR, so the device probably still responds
at whatever we left in the BAR.
In quirk_system_pci_resources(), we set IORESOURCE_DISABLED rather than
setting the PNP resource start/end to zero, but that's a bit of a hack,
too. All that does is prevent the PNP motherboard driver (pnp/system.c)
from requesting that region. We don't actually do anything to stop the
device from responding to that address.
Bjorn
prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-06-02 16:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-12 18:14 Mike Travis
2010-05-13 18:56 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-05-13 19:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-13 19:12 ` Mike Travis
2010-05-13 19:13 ` Mike Travis
2010-05-13 19:54 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-05-13 20:27 ` Mike Habeck
2010-05-13 19:38 ` Mike Habeck
2010-05-13 20:02 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-05-13 20:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-14 22:25 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-14 22:34 ` Mike Travis
2010-05-14 22:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-14 22:40 ` Mike Travis
2010-05-15 2:25 ` Mike Travis
2010-05-14 22:47 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-14 22:59 ` Mike Travis
2010-05-14 23:06 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-14 23:23 ` Mike Travis
2010-05-14 23:33 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-14 23:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-15 0:02 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-14 23:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-14 23:28 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-14 23:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-14 23:34 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-14 23:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-15 0:00 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-15 0:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-13 20:36 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-05-13 20:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-13 18:58 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-05-28 16:53 ` Mike Travis
2010-05-28 17:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-28 17:10 ` Mike Travis
2010-05-28 19:28 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-28 20:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-31 11:12 ` Mike Travis
2010-05-31 16:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-06-01 22:49 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-06-02 7:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-06-02 15:45 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-06-02 15:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-06-02 15:53 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-06-09 0:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-06-09 1:26 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-06-09 14:23 ` Mike Habeck
2010-06-02 15:53 ` Mike Habeck
2010-06-02 16:40 ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
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