From: Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>
To: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Tom Lyon <pugs@cisco.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
chrisw@sous-sol.org, hjk@linutronix.de, gregkh@suse.de,
aafabbri@cisco.com, scofeldm@cisco.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] VFIO driver: Non-privileged user level PCI drivers
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 10:46:15 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100602174615.GV8301@sequoia.sous-sol.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100602121927.GA11162@8bytes.org>
* Joerg Roedel (joro@8bytes.org) wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 02:21:00PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 01:12:25PM +0200, Joerg Roedel wrote:
>
> > > Even if it is bound to a domain the userspace driver could program the
> > > device to do dma to unmapped regions causing io-page-faults. The kernel
> > > can't do anything about it.
> >
> > It can always corrupt its own memory directly as well :)
> > But that is not a reason not to detect errors if we can,
> > and not to make APIs hard to misuse.
>
> Changing the domain of a device while dma can happen is the same type of
> bug as unmapping potential dma target addresses. We can't catch this
> kind of misuse.
>
> > > > With 10 devices you have 10 extra ioctls.
> > >
> > > And this works implicitly with your proposal?
> >
> > Yes. so you do:
> > iommu = open
> > ioctl(dev1, BIND, iommu)
> > ioctl(dev2, BIND, iommu)
> > ioctl(dev3, BIND, iommu)
> > ioctl(dev4, BIND, iommu)
> >
> > No need to add a SHARE ioctl.
>
> In my proposal this looks like:
>
>
> dev1 = open();
> ioctl(dev2, SHARE, dev1);
> ioctl(dev3, SHARE, dev1);
> ioctl(dev4, SHARE, dev1);
>
> So we actually save an ioctl.
This is not any hot path, so saving an ioctl shouldn't be a consideration.
Only important consideration is a good API. I may have lost context here,
but the SHARE API is limited to the vfio fd. The BIND API expects a new
iommu object. Are there other uses for this object? Tom's current vfio
driver exposes a dma mapping interface, would the iommu object expose
one as well? Current interface is device specific DMA interface for
host device drivers typically mapping in-flight dma buffers, and IOMMU
specific interface for assigned devices typically mapping entire virtual
address space.
thanks,
-chris
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-06-02 17:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-28 23:07 Tom Lyon
2010-05-28 23:36 ` Randy Dunlap
2010-05-28 23:56 ` Randy Dunlap
2010-05-29 11:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-05-29 12:16 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-30 12:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-30 12:27 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-30 12:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-30 13:01 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-30 13:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-30 13:13 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-30 14:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-31 11:50 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-31 17:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-01 8:10 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-01 9:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-01 10:28 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-01 10:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-01 12:41 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 9:45 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 9:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 10:04 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 10:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-02 11:21 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 16:53 ` Chris Wright
2010-06-06 13:44 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 10:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-02 10:26 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-01 21:26 ` Tom Lyon
2010-06-02 2:59 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 5:29 ` Chris Wright
2010-06-02 5:40 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 4:29 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-02 4:59 ` Tom Lyon
2010-06-02 5:08 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 9:53 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 9:42 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 9:50 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 9:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-02 10:19 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 10:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-02 10:35 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 10:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-02 11:12 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 11:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-02 12:19 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 12:25 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 12:50 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 13:06 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 13:53 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 13:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-02 14:01 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 12:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-02 13:02 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 17:46 ` Chris Wright [this message]
2010-06-02 18:09 ` Tom Lyon
2010-06-02 19:46 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-03 6:23 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-03 21:41 ` Tom Lyon
2010-06-06 9:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-07 19:01 ` Tom Lyon
2010-06-08 21:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-02 10:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-30 12:59 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-31 17:17 ` Alan Cox
2010-06-01 21:29 ` Tom Lyon
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