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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Paul Menage <menage@google.com>
Cc: Ben Blum <bblum@andrew.cmu.edu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	ebiederm@xmission.com, lizf@cn.fujitsu.com, matthltc@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH 2/2] cgroups: make procs file writable
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 22:20:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100602202048.GB28663@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin-T6ij3xf0ceGoCamwcoayxyf0GdAKY6yXDMVl@mail.gmail.com>

On 06/02, Paul Menage wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > I am not sure. It doesn't hurt when we try to move a thread. But if
> > we want to move the whole thread group, we should proceed even if the
> > group leader has already exited and thus has PF_EXITING bit set.
>
> Hmm, maybe. I could see this being argued both ways. Can the process
> hang around indefinitely with the leader as a zombie and the other
> threads still running?

Yes sure. The main thread can exit via sys_exit(), this doesn't affect
the thread group. Of course, I am not saying this is common practice,
perhaps no "important" app does this.

> It wouldn't be that hard to make it possible to avoid relying on
> PF_EXITING as the check - instead we'd have an exiting_css_set object
> that have the same pointer set as init_css_set, but would be
> distinguishable from it as a task->cgroups pointer by virtue of being
> a different object. Then cgroup_exit() can reassign tasks to point to
> exiting_css_set rather than init_css_set, and the various checks that
> are currently made for (task->flags & PF_EXITING) could check for
> (task->cgroups == exiting_css_set) instead. This would allow task
> movement further into the exit process.

It is too late for me to even try to understand the above ;)

But I still can't understand why we can't just remove it. Both
cgroup_attach_task() and cgroup_attach_proc() should handle the
possible races correctly anyway.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-02 20:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-30  1:30 [RFC] [PATCH v2 0/2] cgroups: implement moving a threadgroup's threads atomically with cgroup.procs Ben Blum
2010-05-30  1:31 ` [RFC] [PATCH 1/2] cgroups: read-write lock CLONE_THREAD forking per threadgroup Ben Blum
2010-05-30  1:33 ` [RFC] [PATCH 2/2] cgroups: make procs file writable Ben Blum
2010-05-31 17:52   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-05-31 18:04     ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-01 18:57       ` Paul Menage
2010-06-02 14:06         ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-02 19:53           ` Paul Menage
2010-06-02 20:20             ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2010-06-02 20:31               ` Paul Menage
2010-06-02 20:58                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-02 21:12                   ` Paul Menage
2010-06-02 21:38                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-02 22:03                       ` Paul Menage
2010-06-03  4:44                         ` Ben Blum
2010-06-03  4:40                   ` Ben Blum
2010-06-03 14:48                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-03  4:56     ` Ben Blum
2010-06-03 14:43       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found] <200908202114.n7KLEN5H026646@imap1.linux-foundation.org>
2009-08-21 10:26 ` + cgroups-add-functionality-to-read-write-lock-clone_thread-forking-pe r-threadgroup.patch added to -mm tree Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-21 10:45   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-21 23:37     ` Paul Menage
2009-08-22 13:09       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-01-03 19:06         ` Ben Blum
2010-01-03 19:09           ` [RFC] [PATCH 2/2] cgroups: make procs file writable Ben Blum

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