From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754448Ab0FVLO3 (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Jun 2010 07:14:29 -0400 Received: from ksp.mff.cuni.cz ([195.113.26.206]:46633 "EHLO atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751502Ab0FVLO1 (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Jun 2010 07:14:27 -0400 Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 17:57:49 +0200 From: Pavel Machek To: Matthew Garrett Cc: Thomas Gleixner , Alan Cox , Arve Hj?nnev?g , Florian Mickler , Vitaly Wool , Peter Zijlstra , LKML , Paul@smtp1.linux-foundation.org, felipe.balbi@nokia.com, Linux OMAP Mailing List , Linux PM Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8) Message-ID: <20100621155749.GD1447@ucw.cz> References: <20100526141612.3e2e0443@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20100527003943.07c17f85@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20100527140655.GA28048@srcf.ucam.org> <20100527155201.GA31937@srcf.ucam.org> <20100527165931.GB1062@srcf.ucam.org> <20100527172343.GB2468@srcf.ucam.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100527172343.GB2468@srcf.ucam.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi! (ok, so I'm little late to the party). > > Nonsense, if we want to push the system into suspend from the idle > > state we can do that. It's just not implemented and we've never tried > > to do it as it requires a non trivial amount of work, but I have done > > it on an ARM two years ago as a prove of concept and it works like a > > charm. > > ACPI provides no guarantees about what level of hardware functionality > remains during S3. You don't have any useful ability to determine which > events will generate wakeups. And from a purely practical point of view, We'll need ACPI extensions, then (or very conservative drivers). suspend blockers do *not* help here. > since the latency is in the range of seconds, you'll never have a low > enough wakeup rate to hit it. I did 'sleepy linux' prototype on PC, and yes I was able to get to 'once in 5 seconds' wakeup rate... good enough... Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html