From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: "Florian Mickler" <florian@mickler.org>,
"Linux-pm mailing list" <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
"Matthew Garrett" <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Dmitry Torokhov" <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
"Arve Hjønnevåg" <arve@android.com>, "Neil Brown" <neilb@suse.de>,
"mark gross" <640e9920@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [update 2] Re: [RFC][PATCH] PM: Avoid losing wakeup events during suspend
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 17:06:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201006241706.45094.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201006241513.06116.rjw@sisk.pl>
On Thursday, June 24, 2010, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Thursday, June 24, 2010, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Wednesday, June 23, 2010, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > On Wed, 23 Jun 2010, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Didn't we agree that timeouts would be needed for Wake-on-LAN?
> > > >
> > > > Yes, we did, but in the WoL case the timeout will have to be used by the user
> > > > space rather than the kernel IMO.
> > >
> > > The kernel will still have to specify some small initial timeout. Just
> > > long enough for userspace to realize what has happened and start its
> > > own critical section.
> > >
> > > > It would make sense to add a timeout argument to pm_wakeup_event() that would
> > > > make the system stay in the working state long enough for the driver wakeup
> > > > code to start in the PCIe case. I think pm_wakeup_event() mght just increment
> > > > events_in_progress and the timer might simply decrement it.
> > >
> > > Hmm. I was thinking about a similar problem with the USB hub driver.
> > >
> > > Maybe a better answer for this particular issue is to change the
> > > workqueue code. Don't allow a work thread to enter the freezer until
> > > its queue is empty. Then you wouldn't need a timeout.
> > >
> > > > So, maybe it's just better to have pm_wakeup_event(dev, timeout) that will
> > > > increment events_in_progress and set up a timer and pm_wakeup_commit(dev) that
> > > > will delete the timer, decrement events_in_progress and increment event_count
> > > > (unless the timer has already expired before).
> > > >
> > > > That would cost us a (one more) timer in struct dev_pm_info, but it would
> > > > allow us to cover all of the cases identified so far. So, if a wakeup event is
> > > > handled within one functional unit that both detects it and delivers it to
> > > > user space, it would call pm_wakeup_event(dev, 0) (ie. infinite timeout) at the
> > > > beginning and then pm_wakeup_commit(dev) when it's done with the event.
> > > > If a wakeup event it's just detected by one piece of code and is going to
> > > > be handled by another, the first one could call pm_wakeup_event(dev, tm) and
> > > > allow the other one to call pm_wakeup_commit(dev) when it's done. However,
> > > > calling pm_wakeup_commit(dev) is not mandatory, so the second piece of code
> > > > (eg. a PCI driver) doesn't really need to do anything in the simplest case.
> > >
> > > You have to handle the case where pm_wakeup_commit() gets called after
> > > the timer expires (it should do nothing).
> >
> > Yup.
> >
> > > And what happens if the device gets a second wakeup event before the timer
> > > for the first one expires?
> >
> > Good question. I don't have an answer to it at the moment, but it seems to
> > arise from using a single timer for all events.
> >
> > It looks like it's simpler to make pm_wakeup_event() allocate a timer for each
> > event and make the timer function remove it. That would cause suspend to
> > be blocked until the timer expires without a way to cancel it earlier, though.
>
> So, I decided to try this after all.
>
> Below is a new version of the patch. It introduces pm_stay_awake(dev) and
> pm_relax() that play the roles of the "old" pm_wakeup_begin() and
> pm_wakeup_end().
>
> pm_wakeup_event() now takes an extra timeout argument and uses it for
> deferred execution of pm_relax(). So, one can either use the
> pm_stay_awake(dev) / pm_relax() pair, or use pm_wakeup_event(dev, timeout)
> if the ending is under someone else's control.
>
> In addition to that, pm_get_wakeup_count() blocks until events_in_progress is
> zero.
>
> Please tell me what you think.
Ah, one piece is missing. Namely, the waiting /sys/power/wakeup_count reader
needs to be woken up when events_in_progress goes down to zero.
I'll send a new version with this bug fixed later today.
Rafael
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-06-24 15:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-19 22:05 Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-20 5:52 ` mark gross
2010-06-20 12:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-20 23:13 ` mark gross
2010-06-20 16:28 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-20 21:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-21 2:23 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21 5:32 ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-21 15:23 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21 20:38 ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-21 22:18 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21 22:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-21 22:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-22 0:50 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-22 10:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-22 14:35 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-22 15:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-22 19:55 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-22 20:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-22 19:59 ` [update] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-22 20:34 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-22 21:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-23 2:12 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-23 10:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-23 15:21 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-23 22:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-24 13:13 ` [update 2] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-24 15:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2010-06-24 15:35 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-24 23:00 ` [update 3] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-25 14:42 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-25 20:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-24 15:44 ` [update 2] " Alan Stern
2010-06-24 16:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-24 17:09 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-24 23:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-25 15:09 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-25 20:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-25 20:57 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-25 6:40 ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-25 13:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <201006222159.28081.rjw__37084.1419128284$1277237903$gmane$org@sisk.pl>
2010-06-24 14:16 ` [update] " Andy Lutomirski
2010-06-24 14:45 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-24 14:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-24 15:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2010-06-22 23:00 ` mark gross
2010-06-21 16:54 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21 20:40 ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-21 21:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-21 22:27 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21 6:13 ` mark gross
2010-06-21 12:10 ` tytso
2010-06-21 12:22 ` Alan Cox
2010-06-21 12:26 ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-21 13:42 ` tytso
2010-06-21 14:01 ` Alan Cox
2010-06-22 1:07 ` mark gross
2010-06-21 16:01 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-22 1:25 ` mark gross
2010-06-22 2:24 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21 21:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-20 22:58 ` mark gross
2010-06-21 2:33 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21 4:04 ` [linux-pm] " David Brownell
2010-06-21 6:02 ` David Brownell
2010-06-21 15:06 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21 5:55 ` mark gross
2010-06-21 12:39 ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-21 15:57 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-22 1:58 ` mark gross
2010-06-22 2:46 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-22 9:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-22 6:18 ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-22 23:22 ` mark gross
2010-06-22 9:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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