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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: "Florian Mickler" <florian@mickler.org>,
	"Linux-pm mailing list" <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"Matthew Garrett" <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Dmitry Torokhov" <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	"Arve Hjønnevåg" <arve@android.com>, "Neil Brown" <neilb@suse.de>,
	"mark gross" <640e9920@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [update 2] Re: [RFC][PATCH] PM: Avoid losing wakeup events during suspend
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 17:06:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201006241706.45094.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201006241513.06116.rjw@sisk.pl>

On Thursday, June 24, 2010, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Thursday, June 24, 2010, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Wednesday, June 23, 2010, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > On Wed, 23 Jun 2010, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > Didn't we agree that timeouts would be needed for Wake-on-LAN?
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, we did, but in the WoL case the timeout will have to be used by the user
> > > > space rather than the kernel IMO.
> > > 
> > > The kernel will still have to specify some small initial timeout.  Just 
> > > long enough for userspace to realize what has happened and start its 
> > > own critical section.
> > > 
> > > > It would make sense to add a timeout argument to pm_wakeup_event() that would
> > > > make the system stay in the working state long enough for the driver wakeup
> > > > code to start in the PCIe case.  I think pm_wakeup_event() mght just increment
> > > > events_in_progress and the timer might simply decrement it.
> > > 
> > > Hmm.  I was thinking about a similar problem with the USB hub driver.
> > > 
> > > Maybe a better answer for this particular issue is to change the
> > > workqueue code.  Don't allow a work thread to enter the freezer until
> > > its queue is empty.  Then you wouldn't need a timeout.
> > > 
> > > > So, maybe it's just better to have pm_wakeup_event(dev, timeout) that will
> > > > increment events_in_progress and set up a timer and pm_wakeup_commit(dev) that
> > > > will delete the timer, decrement events_in_progress and increment event_count
> > > > (unless the timer has already expired before).
> > > > 
> > > > That would cost us a (one more) timer in struct dev_pm_info, but it would
> > > > allow us to cover all of the cases identified so far.  So, if a wakeup event is
> > > > handled within one functional unit that both detects it and delivers it to
> > > > user space, it would call pm_wakeup_event(dev, 0) (ie. infinite timeout) at the
> > > > beginning and then pm_wakeup_commit(dev) when it's done with the event.
> > > > If a wakeup event it's just detected by one piece of code and is going to
> > > > be handled by another, the first one could call pm_wakeup_event(dev, tm) and
> > > > allow the other one to call pm_wakeup_commit(dev) when it's done.  However,
> > > > calling pm_wakeup_commit(dev) is not mandatory, so the second piece of code
> > > > (eg. a PCI driver) doesn't really need to do anything in the simplest case.
> > > 
> > > You have to handle the case where pm_wakeup_commit() gets called after
> > > the timer expires (it should do nothing).
> > 
> > Yup.
> > 
> > > And what happens if the device gets a second wakeup event before the timer
> > > for the first one expires?
> > 
> > Good question.  I don't have an answer to it at the moment, but it seems to
> > arise from using a single timer for all events.
> > 
> > It looks like it's simpler to make pm_wakeup_event() allocate a timer for each
> > event and make the timer function remove it.  That would cause suspend to
> > be blocked until the timer expires without a way to cancel it earlier, though.
> 
> So, I decided to try this after all.
> 
> Below is a new version of the patch.  It introduces pm_stay_awake(dev) and
> pm_relax() that play the roles of the "old" pm_wakeup_begin() and
> pm_wakeup_end().
> 
> pm_wakeup_event() now takes an extra timeout argument and uses it for
> deferred execution of pm_relax().  So, one can either use the
> pm_stay_awake(dev) / pm_relax() pair, or use pm_wakeup_event(dev, timeout)
> if the ending is under someone else's control.
> 
> In addition to that, pm_get_wakeup_count() blocks until events_in_progress is
> zero.
> 
> Please tell me what you think.

Ah, one piece is missing.  Namely, the waiting /sys/power/wakeup_count reader
needs to be woken up when events_in_progress goes down to zero.

I'll send a new version with this bug fixed later today.

Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-24 15:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-19 22:05 Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-20  5:52 ` mark gross
2010-06-20 12:49   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-20 23:13     ` mark gross
2010-06-20 16:28 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-20 21:50   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-21  2:23     ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21  5:32       ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-21 15:23         ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21 20:38           ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-21 22:18             ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21 22:40               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-21 22:48                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-22  0:50                 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-22 10:21                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-22 14:35                   ` Alan Stern
2010-06-22 15:35                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-22 19:55                       ` Alan Stern
2010-06-22 20:58                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-22 19:59                       ` [update] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-22 20:34                         ` Alan Stern
2010-06-22 21:41                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-23  2:12                             ` Alan Stern
2010-06-23 10:09                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-23 15:21                                 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-23 22:17                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-24 13:13                                     ` [update 2] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-24 15:06                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2010-06-24 15:35                                         ` Alan Stern
2010-06-24 23:00                                           ` [update 3] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-25 14:42                                             ` Alan Stern
2010-06-25 20:33                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-24 15:44                                       ` [update 2] " Alan Stern
2010-06-24 16:19                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-24 17:09                                           ` Alan Stern
2010-06-24 23:06                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-25 15:09                                               ` Alan Stern
2010-06-25 20:37                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-25 20:57                                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-06-25  6:40                                             ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-25 13:28                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                       ` <201006222159.28081.rjw__37084.1419128284$1277237903$gmane$org@sisk.pl>
2010-06-24 14:16                         ` [update] " Andy Lutomirski
2010-06-24 14:45                           ` Alan Stern
2010-06-24 14:48                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-24 15:21                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2010-06-22 23:00                   ` mark gross
2010-06-21 16:54         ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21 20:40           ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-21 21:18           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-21 22:27             ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21  6:13       ` mark gross
2010-06-21 12:10         ` tytso
2010-06-21 12:22           ` Alan Cox
2010-06-21 12:26             ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-21 13:42             ` tytso
2010-06-21 14:01               ` Alan Cox
2010-06-22  1:07           ` mark gross
2010-06-21 16:01         ` Alan Stern
2010-06-22  1:25           ` mark gross
2010-06-22  2:24             ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21 21:58       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-20 22:58   ` mark gross
2010-06-21  2:33     ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21  4:04       ` [linux-pm] " David Brownell
2010-06-21  6:02         ` David Brownell
2010-06-21 15:06         ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21  5:55       ` mark gross
2010-06-21 12:39         ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-21 15:57         ` Alan Stern
2010-06-22  1:58           ` mark gross
2010-06-22  2:46             ` Alan Stern
2010-06-22  9:24               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-22  6:18             ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-22 23:22               ` mark gross
2010-06-22  9:29             ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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