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From: Matt Fleming <matt@console-pimps.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>, paulus <paulus@samba.org>,
	stephane eranian <eranian@googlemail.com>,
	Robert Richter <robert.richter@amd.com>,
	Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>,
	Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com>,
	Yanmin <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>,
	Deng-Cheng Zhu <dengcheng.zhu@gmail.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 00/11] perf pmu interface -v2
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 17:04:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100701160456.GB13511@console-pimps.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1277998793.1917.212.camel@laptop>

On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 05:39:53PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 16:31 +0100, MattFleming wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 05:02:35PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > >
> > > Which made me think, what on SH guarantees we update the counter often
> > > enough not to suffer from counter wrap? Would it make sense to make the
> > > SH code hook into their arch tick handler and update the counters from
> > > there?
> > 
> > This was the way that the oprofile code used to work. Paul and I were
> > talking about using a hrtimer to sample performance counters as
> > opposed to piggy-backing on the tick handler.
> 
> Ah, for sampling for sure, simply group a software perf event and a
> hardware perf event together and use PERF_SAMPLE_READ.
> 
> But suppose its a non sampling counter, how do you avoid overflows of
> the hardware register?

Hmm.. good question! I'm not entirely sure we do. As you were saying,
without using the arch tick handler, I don't think we can guarantee
avoiding counter overflows. Currently the counters are chained such
that the counters are at least 48 bits. I guess all my tests were
short enough to not cause the counters to wrap ;-)

At some point we will want to not require chaining, giving us 32
bits. So yeah, this is issue is gonna crop up then. Interestingly, the
counters on SH don't wrap when they reach they're maximum value, they
just stop incrementing.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-01 16:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-24 14:28 Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 14:28 ` [PATCH 01/11] perf, x86: Fix Nehalem PMU quirk Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 14:28 ` [PATCH 02/11] perf: Fix argument of perf_arch_fetch_caller_regs Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 14:28 ` [PATCH 03/11] perf, sparc64: Fix maybe_change_configuration() PCR setting Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 14:28 ` [RFC][PATCH 04/11] perf: deconstify struct pmu Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 14:28 ` [RFC][PATCH 05/11] perf: register pmu implementations Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-28 13:21   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-28 15:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-28 15:29       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-07-09  3:08   ` Paul Mackerras
2010-07-09  8:14     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 14:28 ` [RFC][PATCH 06/11] perf: Unindent labels Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 14:28 ` [RFC][PATCH 07/11] perf: Reduce perf_disable() usage Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 14:28 ` [RFC][PATCH 08/11] perf: Per PMU disable Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-09  7:31   ` Paul Mackerras
2010-07-09  8:36     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 14:28 ` [RFC][PATCH 09/11] perf: Default PMU ops Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-29 14:49   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-29 14:57     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-29 15:00       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-29 14:58   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-29 14:59     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-29 15:03       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-29 16:34         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-29 18:07           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-29 18:09             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-29 18:11               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-29 18:19                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-29 18:21                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-24 14:28 ` [RFC][PATCH 10/11] perf: Shrink hw_perf_event Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-29 15:06   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-24 14:28 ` [RFC][PATCH 11/11] perf: Rework the PMU methods Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-29 15:37   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-29 16:40     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-29 18:09       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-25 11:11 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/11] perf pmu interface -v2 Will Deacon
2010-06-25 11:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-25 14:36     ` Will Deacon
2010-06-25 14:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-01 14:36         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-01 15:02           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-01 15:31             ` MattFleming
2010-07-01 15:39               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-01 16:04                 ` Matt Fleming [this message]
2010-07-02  2:57                 ` Paul Mundt
2010-07-02  9:52                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-05 11:14                     ` Paul Mundt
2010-07-08 11:13                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-08 11:19                   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-07-18 19:37                     ` Matt Fleming
2010-07-02 12:55           ` Will Deacon
2010-06-26 11:22 ` Matt Fleming
2010-06-26 16:22 ` Corey Ashford
2010-06-28 15:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-30 17:19     ` Corey Ashford
2010-06-30 18:11       ` Peter Zijlstra

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