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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] vmscan: shrink_slab() require number of lru_pages, not page order
Date: Fri,  9 Jul 2010 09:46:32 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100709092124.CD5A.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1007081540400.15083@router.home>

> On Thu, 8 Jul 2010, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> > > AFAICT this is not argument error but someone changed the naming of the
> > > parameter.
> >
> > It's been there since day zero:
> >
> > : commit 2a16e3f4b0c408b9e50297d2ec27e295d490267a
> > : Author:     Christoph Lameter <clameter@engr.sgi.com>
> > : AuthorDate: Wed Feb 1 03:05:35 2006 -0800
> > : Commit:     Linus Torvalds <torvalds@g5.osdl.org>
> > : CommitDate: Wed Feb 1 08:53:16 2006 -0800
> > :
> > :     [PATCH] Reclaim slab during zone reclaim
> 
> That only shows that the order parameter was passed to shrink_slab() which
> is what I remember being done intentionally.
> 
> Vaguely recall that this was necessary to avoid shrink_slab() throwing out
> too many pages for higher order allocs.

But It make opposite effect. number of scanning objects of shrink_slab() are

                          lru_scanned        max_pass
basic_scan_objects = 4 x -------------  x -----------------------------
                          lru_pages        shrinker->seeks (default:2)

scan_objects = min(basic_scan_objects, max_pass * 2)


That said, small lru_pages parameter makes too many slab dropping.
Practically, zone-reclaim always take max_pass*2. about inode, 
shrink_icache_memory() takes number of unused inode as max_pass.
It mean one shrink_slab() calling drop all icache. Is this optimal
behavior? why?

Am I missing something?

> Initially zone_reclaim was full of heuristics that later were replaced by
> counter as the new ZVCs became available and gradually better ways of
> accounting for pages became possible.



  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-09  0:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-08  7:38 [PATCH v2 1/2] vmscan: don't subtraction of unsined KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-08  7:40 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] vmscan: shrink_slab() require number of lru_pages, not page order KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-08 13:23   ` Rik van Riel
2010-07-08 14:04   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-07-08 20:31     ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-08 21:01       ` Christoph Lameter
2010-07-09  0:46         ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2010-07-09  8:21       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-09 10:13         ` [PATCH] vmscan: stop meaningless loop iteration when no reclaimable slab KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-09 10:53           ` Minchan Kim
2010-07-09 11:04             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-11 22:28               ` Minchan Kim
2010-07-13  4:48                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-13  6:33                   ` Minchan Kim
2010-07-09 14:02           ` Christoph Lameter
2010-07-13  4:59             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-09  8:36   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] vmscan: shrink_slab() require number of lru_pages, not page order Minchan Kim
2010-07-09 13:54     ` Christoph Lameter
2010-07-13  5:41     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-15 19:15       ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-16  1:39         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-16  1:44           ` Minchan Kim
2010-07-08  7:41 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] vmscan: don't subtraction of unsined KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-08 14:01   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-07-08 20:00 ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-09  1:16   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-09  1:46     ` Minchan Kim
2010-07-09 22:28     ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-13  9:32       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-14  1:50         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-07-14  2:15           ` KOSAKI Motohiro

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