On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:32:19AM -0400, John W. Linville wrote: > The hwrng driver is provided by the b43 hardware, which is shutdown > when the network interface is down. I'm not sure how one could expect > this to work. Nope. It's provided by the VIA PadLock hardware (through the via-rng driver). I'm not sure how one could expect this not to work when the network interface provided by the b43 driver is down. Well, maybe let's try to become a bit less offensive... :) Probably there are two Hardware RNGs on that machine: one provided by VIA PadLock through via-rng, one provided by BCM4312 through b43: hw_random/via-rng.c: err = hwrng_register(&via_rng); b43/main.c: err = hwrng_register(&wl->rng); But at least now it's a bit more likely that the problem is located in the rng core which should not render /dev/hwrng inaccessible when only one of the RNGs unregisters. However, what I don't fully understand is: I find only one way where b43 unregisters its RNG, which is via b43_remove() -> b43_rng_exit() -> hwrng_unregister() And, I'm really not sure if I got this right, but... I guess, b43_remove() is only called when the module is removed from the kernel and not when the network interface is shut down. So, maybe it's not really rng core's fault? I guess, b43 just stops delivering data through b43_rng_read() when the hardware is shut down and instead returns ENODEV (which is btw. what I get when I'm trying to read /dev/hwrng while b43 is down), and the rng core just delivers this error up when it's trying to deliver the read request to the b43 RNG. Mario -- User sind wie ideale Gase - sie verteilen sich gleichmaessig ueber alle Platten