From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
jaxboe@fusionio.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
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James.Bottomley@suse.de, tytso@mit.edu, chris.mason@oracle.com,
swhiteho@redhat.com, konishi.ryusuke@lab.ntt.co.jp,
dm-devel@redhat.com, vst@vlnb.net, jack@suse.cz,
rwheeler@redhat.com, hare@suse.de
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET block#for-2.6.36-post] block: replace barrier with sequenced flush
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:19:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100817131915.GB2963@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C6A5D8A.4010205@kernel.org>
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:59:38AM +0200, Tejun Heo wrote:
> I'm not really convinced that would help much. If bisecting can point
> to the conversion as the culprit for whatever kind of failure,
> wouldn't that be enough? No matter what we do the conversion will be
> a single step thing. If we make the filesystems enforce the ordering
> first and then relax ordering in the block layer, bisection would
> still just point at the later patch. The same goes for md/dm, the
> best we can find out would be whether the conversion is correct or not
> anyway.
The filesystems already enforce the ordering, except reiserfs which
opts out if the barrier options is set.
> I'm not against restructuring the patchset if it makes more sense but
> it just feels like it would be a bit pointless effort (and one which
> would require much tighter coordination among different trees) at this
> point. Am I missing something?
What other trees do you mean? The conversions of the 8 filesystems
that actually support barriers need to go through this tree anyway
if we want to be able to test it. Also the changes in the filesystem
are absolutely minimal - it's basically just
s/WRITE_BARRIER/WRITE_FUA_FLUSH/ after my initial patch kill BH_Orderd,
and removing about 10 lines of code in reiserfs.
> > We only need the special md_flush_request handling for
> > empty REQ_FLUSH requests. REQ_WRITE | REQ_FLUSH just need the
> > flag propagated to the underlying devices.
>
> Hmm, not really, the WRITE should happen after all the data in cache
> are committed to NV media, meaning that empty FLUSH should already
> have finished by the time the WRITE starts.
You're right.
> >> while ((bio = bio_list_pop(writes))) {
> >> - if (unlikely(bio_empty_barrier(bio))) {
> >> + if ((bio->bi_rw & REQ_FLUSH) && !bio_has_data(bio)) {
> >
> > I kept bio_empty_barrier as bio_empty_flush, which actually is a quite
> > useful macro for the bio based drivers.
>
> Hmm... maybe. The reason why I removed bio_empty_flush() was that
> except for the front-most sequencer (block layer for all the request
> based ones and the front-most make_request for bio based ones), it
> doesn't make sense to see REQ_FLUSH + data bios. They should be
> sequenced at the front-most stage anyway, so I didn't have much use
> for them. Those code paths couldn't deal with REQ_FLUSH + data bios
> anyway.
The current bio_empty_barrier is only used in dm, and indeed only makes
sense for make_request-based drivers. But I think it's a rather useful
helper for them. Either way, it's not a big issue and either way is
fine with me.
> >> + if (bio->bi_rw & REQ_FLUSH) {
> >> /*
> >> - * There can be just one barrier request so we use
> >> + * There can be just one flush request so we use
> >> * a per-device variable for error reporting.
> >> * Note that you can't touch the bio after end_io_acct
> >> */
> >> - if (!md->barrier_error && io_error != -EOPNOTSUPP)
> >> - md->barrier_error = io_error;
> >> + if (!md->flush_error)
> >> + md->flush_error = io_error;
> >
> > And we certainly do not need any special casing here. See my patch.
>
> I wasn't sure about that part. You removed store_flush_error(), but
> DM_ENDIO_REQUEUE should still have higher priority than other
> failures, no?
Which priority?
> >> +static void process_flush(struct mapped_device *md, struct bio *bio)
> >> {
> >> + md->flush_error = 0;
> >> +
> >> + /* handle REQ_FLUSH */
> >> dm_wait_for_completion(md, TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE);
> >>
> >> - bio_init(&md->barrier_bio);
> >> - md->barrier_bio.bi_bdev = md->bdev;
> >> - md->barrier_bio.bi_rw = WRITE_BARRIER;
> >> - __split_and_process_bio(md, &md->barrier_bio);
> >> + bio_init(&md->flush_bio);
> >> + md->flush_bio.bi_bdev = md->bdev;
> >> + md->flush_bio.bi_rw = WRITE_FLUSH;
> >> + __split_and_process_bio(md, &md->flush_bio);
> >
> > There's not need to use a separate flush_bio here.
> > __split_and_process_bio does the right thing for empty REQ_FLUSH
> > requests. See my patch for how to do this differenty. And yeah,
> > my version has been tested.
>
> But how do you make sure REQ_FLUSHes for preflush finish before
> starting the write?
Hmm, okay. I see how the special flush_bio makes the waiting easier,
let's see if Mike or other in the DM team have a better idea.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-08-17 13:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-12 12:41 Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41 ` [PATCH 01/11] block/loop: queue ordered mode should be DRAIN_FLUSH Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41 ` [PATCH 02/11] block: kill QUEUE_ORDERED_BY_TAG Tejun Heo
2010-08-13 12:56 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-13 13:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-12 12:41 ` [PATCH 03/11] block: deprecate barrier and replace blk_queue_ordered() with blk_queue_flush() Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41 ` [PATCH 04/11] block: remove spurious uses of REQ_HARDBARRIER Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41 ` [PATCH 05/11] block: misc cleanups in barrier code Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41 ` [PATCH 06/11] block: drop barrier ordering by queue draining Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41 ` [PATCH 07/11] block: rename blk-barrier.c to blk-flush.c Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41 ` [PATCH 08/11] block: rename barrier/ordered to flush Tejun Heo
2010-08-17 13:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-17 16:23 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-17 17:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-18 6:23 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41 ` [PATCH 09/11] block: implement REQ_FLUSH/FUA based interface for FLUSH/FUA requests Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41 ` [PATCH 10/11] fs, block: propagate REQ_FLUSH/FUA interface to upper layers Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 21:24 ` Jan Kara
2010-08-13 7:19 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-13 7:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-16 16:33 ` [PATCH UPDATED " Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41 ` [PATCH 11/11] block: use REQ_FLUSH in blkdev_issue_flush() Tejun Heo
2010-08-13 11:48 ` [PATCHSET block#for-2.6.36-post] block: replace barrier with sequenced flush Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-13 13:48 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-13 14:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-13 14:51 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-14 10:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-17 9:59 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-17 13:19 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2010-08-17 16:41 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-17 16:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-18 6:35 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-18 8:11 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-20 8:26 ` Kiyoshi Ueda
2010-08-23 12:14 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-23 14:17 ` Mike Snitzer
2010-08-24 10:24 ` Kiyoshi Ueda
2010-08-24 16:59 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-24 17:52 ` Mike Snitzer
2010-08-24 18:14 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-25 8:00 ` Kiyoshi Ueda
2010-08-25 15:28 ` Mike Snitzer
2010-08-27 9:47 ` Kiyoshi Ueda
2010-08-27 13:49 ` Mike Snitzer
2010-08-30 6:13 ` Kiyoshi Ueda
2010-09-01 0:55 ` safety of retrying SYNCHRONIZE CACHE [was: Re: [PATCHSET block#for-2.6.36-post] block: replace barrier with sequenced flush] Mike Snitzer
2010-09-01 7:32 ` Hannes Reinecke
2010-09-01 7:38 ` Hannes Reinecke
2010-08-25 15:59 ` [RFC] training mpath to discern between SCSI errors (was: Re: [PATCHSET block#for-2.6.36-post] block: replace barrier with sequenced flush) Mike Snitzer
2010-08-25 19:15 ` [RFC] training mpath to discern between SCSI errors Mike Christie
2010-08-30 11:38 ` Hannes Reinecke
2010-08-30 12:07 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2010-08-30 12:39 ` Hannes Reinecke
2010-08-30 14:52 ` [dm-devel] " Hannes Reinecke
2010-10-18 8:09 ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2010-10-18 11:55 ` Hannes Reinecke
2010-10-19 4:03 ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2010-11-19 3:11 ` [dm-devel] " Malahal Naineni
2010-11-30 22:59 ` Mike Snitzer
2010-12-07 23:16 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] differentiate between I/O errors Mike Snitzer
2010-12-07 23:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/3] scsi: Detailed " Mike Snitzer
2010-12-07 23:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/3] dm mpath: propagate target errors immediately Mike Snitzer
2010-12-07 23:16 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] block: improve detail in I/O error messages Mike Snitzer
2010-12-08 11:28 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2010-12-08 15:05 ` [PATCH v2 " Mike Snitzer
2010-12-10 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] differentiate between I/O errors Malahal Naineni
2011-01-14 1:15 ` Mike Snitzer
2010-12-17 9:47 ` training mpath to discern between SCSI errors Hannes Reinecke
2010-12-17 14:06 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-01-14 1:09 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-01-14 7:45 ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-01-14 13:59 ` Mike Snitzer
2010-08-24 17:11 ` [PATCHSET block#for-2.6.36-post] block: replace barrier with sequenced flush Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-24 23:14 ` Alan Cox
2010-08-13 12:55 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-13 13:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-18 19:29 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-13 13:21 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-18 19:30 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-19 9:51 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-30 9:54 ` Hannes Reinecke
2010-08-30 20:34 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-18 9:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-19 9:57 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-19 10:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-19 10:22 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-20 13:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-20 15:18 ` Ric Wheeler
2010-08-20 16:00 ` Chris Mason
2010-08-20 16:02 ` Ric Wheeler
2010-08-23 12:30 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-23 12:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-23 13:58 ` Ric Wheeler
2010-08-23 14:01 ` Jens Axboe
2010-08-23 14:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-23 14:13 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-23 14:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-25 11:31 ` Jens Axboe
2010-08-30 10:04 ` Hannes Reinecke
2010-08-23 15:19 ` Ric Wheeler
2010-08-23 16:45 ` [dm-devel] " Sergey Vlasov
2010-08-23 16:49 ` Ric Wheeler
2010-08-23 12:36 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-23 14:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-23 14:15 ` [PATCH] block: simplify queue_next_fseq Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-23 16:28 ` OT grammar nit " John Robinson
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