From: Haavard Skinnemoen <haavard.skinnemoen@atmel.com>
To: Hein_Tibosch <hein_tibosch@yahoo.es>
Cc: Ben Nizette <bn@niasdigital.com>,
linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org, Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Chris Ball <cjb@laptop.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mmc: Reduce fOD to 200 kHz if possible
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:10:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100915171045.53397db0@hskinnemoen-d830> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C90D8AB.9030606@yahoo.es>
Hein_Tibosch <hein_tibosch@yahoo.es> wrote:
> >> We've now submitted one fix each, mine was similar to yours [1] but there's been movement on Hein's more comprehensive patch recently [2]. I don't know who's supposed to be merging MMC patches atm, Chris Ball added on CC on a hunch.
> > Thanks for the references. IMO Hein's patch is overkill. There is
> > absolutely no reason why 200 kHz should be a problem on any setup, and
> > I haven't found any indication in any discussions that it is.
> >
>
> I have also seen situations in which the SD will only start up at 180 Khz
> or lower.
Ok, so my patch would obviously not fix those. Could you tell me more
about those situations? What kind of board are you running at, etc?
> IMO my patch is indeed a bit of an overkill (the amount of code changed),
> I'd rather see a patch like yours or Ben's, but settings fOD at 100 or 50 Khz.
I guess 100 kHz would make sense. 50 kHz is not allowed according to
the SD card spec.
Another solution might be to introduce a new field, f_max_od, which the
host controller driver could use to limit the bus frequency in open
drain mode.
> It was Pierre who suggested to try several frequencies[1]: most systems will start
> using 400 Khz (so they won't suffer any loss of performance) and in some rare
> cases, the SD will only be identified at 100 Khz (which does happen, sometimes)
I think any performance hit in open drain mode is not likely to be
noticeable, as it is only used for a couple of commands. The only thing
that really matters for performance is push-pull mode, where too strong
pull-ups might cause problems at high speed.
But if there really are cards that have problems at 100 kHz, I guess
your patch might be the best bet.
Haavard
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-09-15 15:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-15 8:59 Haavard Skinnemoen
2010-09-15 9:50 ` Ben Nizette
2010-09-15 10:51 ` Haavard Skinnemoen
2010-09-15 14:08 ` Chris Ball
2010-09-15 14:31 ` Hein_Tibosch
2010-09-15 15:10 ` Haavard Skinnemoen [this message]
2010-09-15 13:57 ` Chris Ball
2010-09-16 7:55 ` Haavard Skinnemoen
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