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From: Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: mingo@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	yinghai@kernel.org, just.for.lkml@googlemail.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, hpa@linux.intel.com,
	Feng Tang <feng.tang@intel.com>, Alan Cox <alan@linux.intel.com>,
	greg@kroah.com
Subject: Re: Early console confusion
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:21:59 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201009221222.00475.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C9A3487.6080005@zytor.com>

On Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:53:27 am H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 09/22/2010 09:44 AM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> >
> > If we don't like "uart8250,io,0x3f8" (which I agree is awfully clunky),
> > we could easily add something like "console=com1" which encapsulated
> > the well-defined PC concept.
> 
> console=ttyS0 ... already works fine.

Yes, but it doesn't give you early output.  You have to wait until the
8250 driver loads and figures out which device will be ttyS0.

If we use "console=tty0" or "console=ttyS0", those are device names
that don't work until the driver is loaded.  But if we specify the
device explicitly, via "uart8250", "com1", "hsu", "vga", etc., we
can make the console work early using a minimal driver, then switch
to the regular driver later.

The question is whether that would be good enough to let us remove
the "earlycon=" and "earlyprintk=" stuff.

> But yes, it's ugly and we have bass-ackwards compatibility problem...

I think earlycon and earlyprintk have minimal backwards compatibility
problems, since they're mostly for developers.  And if we decided
we did need to keep them, they could be undocumented and implemented
on top of "console=" with the appropriate explicit device.

I guess this is all just hot air since I don't have time to actually
produce any patches :-(

Bjorn

  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-22 18:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-29 17:25 Linux 2.6.36-rc3 Linus Torvalds
2010-08-29 19:24 ` Chris Ball
2010-08-29 19:24 ` Torsten Kaiser
2010-08-29 22:27   ` Yinghai Lu
2010-08-29 22:36     ` Yinghai Lu
2010-08-29 22:53   ` Yinghai Lu
2010-08-30  4:50     ` Torsten Kaiser
2010-08-30  1:12   ` [PATCH] x86, setup: fix earlyprintk=serial,ttyS0,115200 Yinghai Lu
2010-08-30  1:13     ` [PATCH] x86, setup: fix earlyprintk=serial,0x3f8,115200 Yinghai Lu
2010-09-08 21:28       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-09-09  7:23         ` Yinghai Lu
2010-09-21 19:58       ` [tip:x86/urgent] x86, setup: Fix earlyprintk=serial,0x3f8,115200 tip-bot for Yinghai Lu
2010-09-21 19:58     ` [tip:x86/urgent] x86, setup: Fix earlyprintk=serial,ttyS0,115200 tip-bot for Yinghai Lu
2010-09-22 15:12       ` Early console confusion Bjorn Helgaas
2010-09-22 15:56         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-09-22 16:44           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-09-22 16:53             ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-09-22 18:21               ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2010-09-22 18:26                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-08-29 22:40 ` Linux 2.6.36-rc3 Jean-Denis Girard
2010-08-30  5:23   ` Borislav Petkov
2010-08-30  8:00     ` Jean-Denis Girard
2010-08-30  8:47 ` Miguel Calleja
2010-08-30 17:00   ` Suresh Jayaraman
2010-08-30 17:14     ` Shirish Pargaonkar
2010-08-30 17:25       ` Randy Dunlap
2010-08-30 21:27         ` Steve French
2010-08-30 19:28 ` Piotr Hosowicz

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