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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	"Figo.zhang" <zhangtianfei@leadcoretech.com>
Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	figo zhang <figo1802@gmail.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2]oom-kill: CAP_SYS_RESOURCE should get bonus
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 12:24:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101109122437.2e0d71fd@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101109195726.BC9E.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>

> > > process with CAP_SYS_RESOURCE capibility which have system resource
> > > limits, like journaling resource on ext3/4 filesystem, RTC clock. so it
> > > also the same treatment as process with CAP_SYS_ADMIN.
> > > 
> > 
> > NACK, there's no justification that these tasks should be given a 3% 
> > memory bonus in the oom killer heuristic; in fact, since they can allocate 
> > without limits it is more important to target these tasks if they are 
> > using an egregious amount of memory.
> 
> David, Stupid are YOU. you removed CAP_SYS_RESOURCE condition with ZERO
> explanation and Figo reported a regression. That's enough the reason to
> undo. YOU have a guilty to explain why do you want to change and why
> do you think it has justification.
> 
> Don't blame bug reporter. That's completely wrong.

Can people stop throwing things at each other and worry about the facts

- If it's a regression it should get reverted or fixed. But is it
  actually a regression ? Has the underlying behaviour changed in a
  problematic way?

"CAP_SYS_RESOURCE threads have the ability to lower their own oom_score_adj
 values, thus, they should protect themselves if necessary like
 everything else."

The reverse can be argued equally - that they can unprotect themselves if
necessary. In fact it seems to be a "point of view" sort of question
which way you deal with CAP_SYS_RESOURCE, and that to me argues that
changing from old expected behaviour to a new behaviour is a regression.




  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-09 12:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-02  1:43 [PATCH]oom-kill: direct hardware access processes " Figo.zhang
2010-11-02  3:10 ` David Rientjes
2010-11-02 14:24   ` Figo.zhang
2010-11-02 19:34     ` David Rientjes
2010-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH v2]oom-kill: CAP_SYS_RESOURCE " Figo.zhang
2010-11-03 23:47   ` David Rientjes
     [not found]     ` <AANLkTimjfmLzr_9+Sf4gk0xGkFjffQ1VcCnwmCXA88R8@mail.gmail.com>
2010-11-04  1:38       ` Figo.zhang
2010-11-04  1:50         ` David Rientjes
2010-11-04  2:12           ` Figo.zhang
2010-11-04  2:54             ` David Rientjes
2010-11-04  4:42               ` Figo.zhang
2010-11-04  5:08                 ` David Rientjes
2010-11-09 11:01           ` [PATCH " KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-09 12:24             ` Alan Cox [this message]
2010-11-09 21:06               ` David Rientjes
2010-11-09 21:25                 ` David Rientjes
2010-11-10 14:38                 ` Figo.zhang
2010-11-10 20:50                   ` David Rientjes
2010-11-09 10:41 ` [PATCH]oom-kill: direct hardware access processes " KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-09 12:24 ` [PATCH v2]mm/oom-kill: " Figo.zhang
2010-11-09 21:16   ` David Rientjes
2010-11-10 14:48     ` Figo.zhang
2010-11-14  5:07     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-14 21:29       ` David Rientjes
2010-11-15  1:24         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-15 10:03           ` David Rientjes
2010-11-23  7:16             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-28  1:36               ` David Rientjes
2010-11-30 13:00                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-30 20:05                   ` David Rientjes
2010-11-10 15:14   ` [PATCH v3]mm/oom-kill: " Figo.zhang
2010-11-10 15:24     ` Figo.zhang
2010-11-10 21:00       ` David Rientjes
2010-11-14  5:21       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-14 21:33         ` David Rientjes
2010-11-15  3:26           ` [PATCH] Revert oom rewrite series Figo.zhang
2010-11-15 10:14             ` David Rientjes
2010-11-15 10:57               ` Alan Cox
2010-11-15 20:54                 ` David Rientjes
2010-11-23  7:16                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-01-04  7:51       ` [PATCH v3]mm/oom-kill: direct hardware access processes should get bonus Figo.zhang
2011-01-04  8:28         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-01-04  8:56           ` Figo.zhang
2011-01-06  0:55             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-01-05  3:32         ` David Rientjes

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