From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751700Ab0KVGQc (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Nov 2010 01:16:32 -0500 Received: from e1.ny.us.ibm.com ([32.97.182.141]:47973 "EHLO e1.ny.us.ibm.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751367Ab0KVGQ3 (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Nov 2010 01:16:29 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 11:46:20 +0530 From: Balbir Singh To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Lennart Poettering , Dhaval Giani , Peter Zijlstra , Mike Galbraith , Vivek Goyal , Oleg Nesterov , Markus Trippelsdorf , Mathieu Desnoyers , Ingo Molnar , LKML Subject: Re: [RFC/RFT PATCH v3] sched: automated per tty task groups Message-ID: <20101122061620.GD12043@balbir.in.ibm.com> Reply-To: balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com References: <20101115125716.GA22422@redhat.com> <1289856350.14719.135.camel@maggy.simson.net> <20101116015648.GA11534@redhat.com> <1289916171.5169.117.camel@maggy.simson.net> <1289916683.2109.625.camel@laptop> <20101116170312.GA19327@tango.0pointer.de> <20101116181603.GC19327@tango.0pointer.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org * Linus Torvalds [2010-11-16 10:49:22]: > That's the point. We can push out the kernel change, and everything > will "just work". We can make that feature we already have in the > kernel actually be _useful_. > This is absolutely fine, as long as everyone wants the feature, "just works" for us as kernel developers might not be the same as "just works" for all end users. How does one find and disable this feature if one is not happy? I don't think it is very hard, it could be a simple tool that the distro provides or documentation, but hidden works both ways, IMHO. In summary, we need tooling with good defaults. -- Three Cheers, Balbir