From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: blk-throttle: Correct the placement of smp_rmb()
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 23:06:40 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101208220640.GB4895@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101208213331.GA4895@redhat.com>
On 12/08, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, I can't prove this. You can ask
> Paul McKenney if you want the authoritative answer.
Well. I think we should ask ;) This is interesting.
Paul could you please shed a light?
Suppose we have 2 variables, A = 0 and B = 0.
CPU0 does:
A = 1;
wmb();
B = 1;
CPU1 does:
B = 0;
mb();
if (A)
A = 2;
My understanding is: after that we can safely assume that
B == 1 || A == 2
IOW. Either CPU1 notices that A was changed, or CPU0 "wins"
and sets B = 1 "after" CPU1. But, it is not possible that
CPU1 clears B "after" it was set by CPU0 _and_ sees A == 0.
Is it true? I think it should be true, but can't prove. This
reminds me the old (and long) discussion about STORE-MB-LOAD.
Iirc, finally it was decided that
CPU0: CPU1:
A = 1; B = 1;
mb(); mb();
if (B) if (A)
printf("Yes"); printf("Yes");
should print "Yes" at least once. This looks very similar to
the the previous example.
Thanks,
Oleg.
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2010-12-08 22:06 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2010-12-09 1:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-09 2:37 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-12-09 9:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-09 19:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-10 16:46 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-10 23:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
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