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From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
To: Suresh Jayaraman <sjayaraman@suse.de>
Cc: Bernhard Walle <bernhard@bwalle.de>,
	sfrench@samba.org, linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org,
	samba-technical@lists.samba.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cifs: Add information about noserverino
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 07:09:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101209070952.24793c23@barsoom.rdu.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D00C02C.4070006@suse.de>

On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 17:10:28 +0530
Suresh Jayaraman <sjayaraman@suse.de> wrote:

> On 12/06/2010 09:08 PM, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 16:35:06 +0100
> > Bernhard Walle <bernhard@bwalle.de> wrote:
> > 
> >>
> >> Zitat von Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I'm still not sure I like this patch however. It potentially means a
> >>> lot of printk spam since these things have no ratelimiting. It also
> >>> doesn't tell me anything about which server might be giving me grief.
> >>>
> >>> Maybe this should be turned into a cFYI?
> >>
> >> Well, if I see it in the kernel log, it doesn't matter if it's info or
> >> something else.
> >>
> >>> The bottom line though is that running 32-bit applications that were
> >>> built without -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 on a 64-bit kernel is a very bad
> >>> idea. It would be nice to be able to alert users that things aren't
> >>> working the way they expect, but I'm not sure this is the right place
> >>> to do that.
> >>
> >> Well, but there *are* such application (in my case it was Softmaker Office
> >> which is a proprietary word processor) and it's quite nice if you know
> >> how you can workaround it when you encounter such a problem. That's all.
> >>
> > 
> > Sure...but this problem is not limited to CIFS. Many modern filesystems
> > use 64-bit inodes. Running this application on XFS or NFS for instance
> > is likely to give you the same trouble. You just hit it on CIFS because
> > the server happened to give you a very large inode number.
> > 
> > If we're going to add printk's for this situation, it probably ought to
> > be in a more generic place.
> > 
> 
> By generic place, did you mean at the VFS level? I think at VFS level,
> there is little information about the Server or underlying fs and this
> information doesn't seem too critical that VFS should warn/care much about.
> 
> May be sticking to a cFYI along with Server detail is a good idea?
> 
My poing was mainly that there's nothing special about CIFS in this
regard, other than the fact that servers regularly send us inodes that
are larger than 2^32. Why should we do this for cifs but not for nfs,
xfs, ext4, etc?

The filldir function gets a dentry as an argument, so it could
reasonably generate a printk for this. I'm also not keen on
the printk recommending noserverino for this. That has its own
drawbacks.

A cFYI for this sort of thing seems reasonable however.

-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>

  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-09 12:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-05 17:07 Bernhard Walle
2010-12-06  6:57 ` Suresh Jayaraman
2010-12-06 14:57 ` Jeff Layton
2010-12-06 15:11   ` Bernhard Walle
2010-12-06 15:12   ` Jeff Layton
2010-12-06 15:35     ` Bernhard Walle
2010-12-06 15:38       ` Jeff Layton
2010-12-09 11:40         ` Suresh Jayaraman
2010-12-09 12:09           ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2010-12-09 18:26             ` Steve French
2010-12-09 19:34               ` Jeff Layton
2010-12-09 20:44                 ` Steve French
2010-12-09 20:56                   ` Jeff Layton
2010-12-10  3:09                   ` Suresh Jayaraman
2010-12-10  4:58                     ` Steve French
2010-12-10 11:05                       ` Jeff Layton

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