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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rcu: remove SPARSE_RCU_POINTER
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 21:59:56 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110106055956.GB2506@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D23C9B0.9060803@cn.fujitsu.com>

On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 09:30:24AM +0800, Lai Jiangshan wrote:
> On 01/05/2011 05:19 AM, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 11:36:02AM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> >> On Tuesday 04 January 2011 09:43:01 Lai Jiangshan wrote:
> >>> As I known, __rcu annotations do not effect the result compiled kernel.
> >>>
> >>> They work only when we use spare("make C=1" or "make C=2"),
> >>> So we don't need another new switch for it since we have one
> >>> for debugging(use spare or not).
> >>>
> >>> signed-off-by: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>
> >>
> >> The intention of this option was to avoid introducing an excessive
> >> number of false positives when using sparse.
> >>
> >> We should only make that unconditional if we are reasonably convinced
> >> that all the majority of warnings caused by it should actually
> >> lead to changes in the code.
> > 
> > I agree with Arnd here -- the changes required are extensive in many
> > cases, and a number of subsystems are making decent progress.
> > 
> > 							Thanx, Paul
> 
> I also agree. Most guys like to use direct read to the rcu pointer
> on update side or direct read/write when initializing the rcu pointer.
> This causes a lot of false positives.

And it is good to see some people, most notably Eric Dumazet, making
good use of __rcu!  We will learn from the experiences of the early
adopters, and perhaps be more aggressive pushing __rcu out to the rest
of the community in a year or two, depending on how it goes.

It is quite possible that __rcu will be something that only some of the
maintainers make use of for some time -- and that is OK.

							Thanx, Paul

      reply	other threads:[~2011-01-06  6:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-04  8:43 Lai Jiangshan
2011-01-04 10:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-01-04 21:19   ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-01-05  1:30     ` Lai Jiangshan
2011-01-06  5:59       ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]

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