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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>
Cc: "Linux-pm mailing list" <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@ti.com>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Power domains for platform bus type
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 00:10:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201102010010.46096.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110131225902.GD27856@angua.secretlab.ca>

On Monday, January 31, 2011, Grant Likely wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 01:07:19AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > This is something we discussed during the last Linux Plumbers Conference.
> > 
> > The problem appears to be that the same device may be used in different
> > systems in different configurations such that actions necessary for the
> > device's power management can vary from one system to another.  In those
> > cases the drivers' power management callbacks are generally not sufficient,
> > because they can't take the configuration of the whole system into account.
> > 
> > I think this issue may be addressed by adding objects that will represent
> > power domains and will provide power management callbacks to be executed
> > in addition to the device driver's PM callbacks, which is done by the patch
> > below.
> > 
> > Please have a look at it and tell me what you think.
> 
> In general it looks okay.  I agree with Alan's comment that it
> probably belongs outside the platform device pm ops.  It's the sort of
> thing that should be available to *any* device, regardless of bus
> type.

I'd rather say any subsystem.  Anyway, I'm not sure how many subsystems
will find it useful at the core level except for platform.

> ie. it is conceivable that some spi and i2c devices would be in
> need to be in the same power_domain.

So there's spi and i2c.  Anything else?

> It slightly worries me about the amount of code required to manage all the
> nested levels of pm_ops.  I wonder if there is a better way to manage
> them.

I'm not really sure.  The amount of code is kind of proportional to the
number of different callbacks in struct dev_pm_ops ...

> Also, what is the use case for having 2 sets of power_domain ops?  My
> gut tells me that you'd only want to do post ops on the
> {freeze,suspend,poweroff} path and pre ops on the {resume,thaw,restore}
> path.  It seems overly engineered to me, but I may be missing
> something fundamental.

Well, that's a part of the RFC, actually. :-)

For the subsystems I've worked with (PCI, ACPI, PNP to some extent) one set
would be sufficient, but I don't know of every possible use case.

Thanks,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-31 23:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-30  0:07 Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-01-30 16:03 ` Alan Stern
2011-01-30 22:39   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-01-31 15:01     ` Alan Stern
2011-01-31 18:09       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-01-31 19:45         ` Alan Stern
2011-01-31 22:16           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-01-31 22:26             ` Grant Likely
2011-01-31 22:44               ` Kevin Hilman
2011-01-31 23:01                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-01-31 12:05 ` Mark Brown
2011-01-31 22:59 ` Grant Likely
2011-01-31 23:10   ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2011-01-31 23:43     ` Kevin Hilman
2011-02-01  3:18       ` Grant Likely
2011-02-01 10:58         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-01 16:48           ` Kevin Hilman
2011-02-01 18:39             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-12 22:12               ` [RFC][PATCH 0/2] PM: Core power management modifications Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-12 22:13                 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] PM: Add support for device power domains Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-14 16:12                   ` Alan Stern
2011-02-14 22:34                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-15  3:01                       ` Alan Stern
2011-02-15 21:40                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-15  7:28                       ` Magnus Damm
2011-02-15 23:12                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-15 18:23                   ` Kevin Hilman
2011-02-12 22:14                 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] PM: Make system-wide PM and runtime PM handle subsystems consistently Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-14 16:25                   ` Alan Stern
2011-02-14 22:35                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-16 12:24                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-16 14:57                       ` Alan Stern
2011-02-16 21:47                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-16 22:23                           ` Alan Stern
2011-02-16 23:45                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-17 14:55                               ` Alan Stern
2011-02-17 17:04                                 ` Greg KH
2011-02-17 22:16                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-17 23:54                                   ` [PATCH] PM: Make system-wide PM and runtime PM treat " R. J. Wysocki
2011-02-18 19:22                                     ` Greg KH
2011-02-18 20:14                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-15 18:10                   ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] PM: Make system-wide PM and runtime PM handle " Kevin Hilman
2011-02-15 19:48                     ` Grant Likely
2011-02-01  3:40       ` [RFC][PATCH] Power domains for platform bus type Alan Stern
2011-01-31 23:16 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-01-31 23:23   ` Grant Likely
2011-02-01  0:17 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-02-01 10:52   ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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