From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>
Cc: "Linux-pm mailing list" <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
Kevin Hilman <khilman@ti.com>,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Power domains for platform bus type
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 00:10:45 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201102010010.46096.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110131225902.GD27856@angua.secretlab.ca>
On Monday, January 31, 2011, Grant Likely wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 01:07:19AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > This is something we discussed during the last Linux Plumbers Conference.
> >
> > The problem appears to be that the same device may be used in different
> > systems in different configurations such that actions necessary for the
> > device's power management can vary from one system to another. In those
> > cases the drivers' power management callbacks are generally not sufficient,
> > because they can't take the configuration of the whole system into account.
> >
> > I think this issue may be addressed by adding objects that will represent
> > power domains and will provide power management callbacks to be executed
> > in addition to the device driver's PM callbacks, which is done by the patch
> > below.
> >
> > Please have a look at it and tell me what you think.
>
> In general it looks okay. I agree with Alan's comment that it
> probably belongs outside the platform device pm ops. It's the sort of
> thing that should be available to *any* device, regardless of bus
> type.
I'd rather say any subsystem. Anyway, I'm not sure how many subsystems
will find it useful at the core level except for platform.
> ie. it is conceivable that some spi and i2c devices would be in
> need to be in the same power_domain.
So there's spi and i2c. Anything else?
> It slightly worries me about the amount of code required to manage all the
> nested levels of pm_ops. I wonder if there is a better way to manage
> them.
I'm not really sure. The amount of code is kind of proportional to the
number of different callbacks in struct dev_pm_ops ...
> Also, what is the use case for having 2 sets of power_domain ops? My
> gut tells me that you'd only want to do post ops on the
> {freeze,suspend,poweroff} path and pre ops on the {resume,thaw,restore}
> path. It seems overly engineered to me, but I may be missing
> something fundamental.
Well, that's a part of the RFC, actually. :-)
For the subsystems I've worked with (PCI, ACPI, PNP to some extent) one set
would be sufficient, but I don't know of every possible use case.
Thanks,
Rafael
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-01-31 23:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-30 0:07 Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-01-30 16:03 ` Alan Stern
2011-01-30 22:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-01-31 15:01 ` Alan Stern
2011-01-31 18:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-01-31 19:45 ` Alan Stern
2011-01-31 22:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-01-31 22:26 ` Grant Likely
2011-01-31 22:44 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-01-31 23:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-01-31 12:05 ` Mark Brown
2011-01-31 22:59 ` Grant Likely
2011-01-31 23:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2011-01-31 23:43 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-02-01 3:18 ` Grant Likely
2011-02-01 10:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-01 16:48 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-02-01 18:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-12 22:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/2] PM: Core power management modifications Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-12 22:13 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] PM: Add support for device power domains Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-14 16:12 ` Alan Stern
2011-02-14 22:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-15 3:01 ` Alan Stern
2011-02-15 21:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-15 7:28 ` Magnus Damm
2011-02-15 23:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-15 18:23 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-02-12 22:14 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] PM: Make system-wide PM and runtime PM handle subsystems consistently Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-14 16:25 ` Alan Stern
2011-02-14 22:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-16 12:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-16 14:57 ` Alan Stern
2011-02-16 21:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-16 22:23 ` Alan Stern
2011-02-16 23:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-17 14:55 ` Alan Stern
2011-02-17 17:04 ` Greg KH
2011-02-17 22:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-17 23:54 ` [PATCH] PM: Make system-wide PM and runtime PM treat " R. J. Wysocki
2011-02-18 19:22 ` Greg KH
2011-02-18 20:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-15 18:10 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] PM: Make system-wide PM and runtime PM handle " Kevin Hilman
2011-02-15 19:48 ` Grant Likely
2011-02-01 3:40 ` [RFC][PATCH] Power domains for platform bus type Alan Stern
2011-01-31 23:16 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-01-31 23:23 ` Grant Likely
2011-02-01 0:17 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-02-01 10:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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