From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755320Ab1BVTu6 (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Feb 2011 14:50:58 -0500 Received: from smtp.outflux.net ([198.145.64.163]:40936 "EHLO smtp.outflux.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752781Ab1BVTu5 (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Feb 2011 14:50:57 -0500 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:50:18 -0800 From: Kees Cook To: Alan Cox Cc: Greg KH , David Daney , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Eugene Teo , Ralph Campbell , Roland Dreier , Sean Hefty , Hal Rosenstock , Jeremy Fitzhardinge , Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk , Alexander Viro , Miklos Szeredi , "J. Bruce Fields" , Neil Brown , Matthew Wilcox , James Morris , Stephen Smalley , Eric Paris , Nick Piggin , Arnd Bergmann , Ian Campbell , Jarkko Sakkinen , Tejun Heo , Casey Schaufler Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] debugfs: only allow root access to debugging interfaces Message-ID: <20110222195018.GA4000@outflux.net> References: <1298398198-18482-1-git-send-email-kees.cook@canonical.com> <1298398198-18482-2-git-send-email-kees.cook@canonical.com> <20110222181613.GU4000@outflux.net> <4D640133.9020901@caviumnetworks.com> <20110222184726.GV4000@outflux.net> <20110222191454.GB9991@suse.de> <20110222192532.GY4000@outflux.net> <20110222193418.773ccd4b@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110222193418.773ccd4b@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> Organization: Canonical X-HELO: www.outflux.net Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 07:34:18PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote: > > What system do you proposed to keep these "stupid mistakes" from > > continuing to happen? If debugfs had already been mode 0700, we could have > > avoided all of these CVEs, including the full-blown local root escalation. > > And all sorts of features would have put themselves in sysfs instead and > broken no doubt. > > > The "no rules" approach to debugfs is not a good idea, IMO. > > It's a debugging fs, it needs to be "no rules" other than the obvious > "don't mount it on production systems" Okay, so the debugfs is not supposed to be mounted on a production system. This seems to be news to a lot of developers trying to use the interfaces exposed there. It would be nice to say this more loudly. Basically, a normal system should not depend on anything in the debugfs. I can get behind that. > Or of course you could just chmod it 0700 in the distro ! I'm trying to, but that involves a race condition since I can't control it during the mount (nor set the default mode like I was trying to with the patchset). tmpfs allows "mode=", but debugfs does not... -Kees -- Kees Cook Ubuntu Security Team