From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932346Ab1BXGhr (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Feb 2011 01:37:47 -0500 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:49693 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754161Ab1BXGhp (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Feb 2011 01:37:45 -0500 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:37:37 -0800 From: Stephen Hemminger To: "H. Peter Anvin" Cc: Herbert Xu , Linus =?ISO-8859-1?B?TPxz?= =?ISO-8859-1?B?c2luZw==?= , "David S. Miller" , bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Multicast snooping fixes and suggestions Message-ID: <20110223223737.594932a8@nehalam> In-Reply-To: <89132767-587d-4186-8eac-9692bed59a44@email.android.com> References: <1297811961-19249-1-git-send-email-linus.luessing@web.de> <4D65CD81.4070203@zytor.com> <20110224040412.GA25488@gondor.apana.org.au> <4D65E2B4.1010501@zytor.com> <20110224054232.GA26064@gondor.apana.org.au> <89132767-587d-4186-8eac-9692bed59a44@email.android.com> Organization: Linux Foundation X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.22.0; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:57:32 -0800 "H. Peter Anvin" wrote: > Ok, so stupid question... how do hardware switches deal with this? It would seem to me that if everyone behind say a Cisco switch had these kind of issues they would have limited appeal... Real bridges run current newwer Spanning Tree Protocol that converges faster. The current Linux STP code is on older standard (around 2001). The current STP standard use RSTP which converges much faster. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanning_Tree_Protocol There is a userspace RSTP daemon that almost nobody uses. There are a number of other STP enhancements that are needed like STP protection and MSTP, as welll as the Cisco non-standard STP VLAN stuff. Fixing STP and testing it is a fairly project, too big for a spare time effort and currently not something high enough on the project chart for me to be able to dedicate much company time on. Contributions welcome.