From: Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@googlemail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Proposal for ptrace improvements
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 20:06:38 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110301190638.GA12196@host1.dyn.jankratochvil.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110301152457.GE26074@htj.dyndns.org>
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:24:57 +0100, Tejun Heo wrote:
> P4. PTRACE_SEIZE
[...]
> Completion notification is delivered in the usual way via wait(2). If
> the task was in jctl stop, it would report the stop signal with the
> matching siginfo. If the task hits an existing ptrace trap condition,
> the matching SIGTRAP will be reported; otherwise, SIGTRAP will be
> reported with siginfo indicating PTRACE_SEIZE trap.
This is a change from the Roland's proposed PTRACE_ATTACH_NOSTOP.
Currently it is already a problem that apps did not / do not expect the first
waitpid after PTRACE_ATTACH may not be SIGSTOP. And in the racy case of
a pending signal during PTRACE_ATTACH which gets delivered by first waidpid
the tracer either crashes or loses the signal etc. (It was a problem for
older GDB, it is fixed in recent GDBs, there exist other ptrace using tools.)
And after all it gets complicated to call PTRACE_ATTACH and then postpone the
reception of SIGSTOP while other signals are being delivered first.
> WAY FORWARD (yeah, I'm feeling some marketing vibe)
> -----------
[...]
> What someone would want if one could start from the scratch is interesting
> but ultimately irrelevant.
The ugdb project provides unified debugging facility for both local and remote
debugging. With the ptrace extensions a network protocol server needs to be
developed/used anyway and it will be just a thin userland layer mapping
read/write calls to the ptrace calls on the server side in an ineffective way.
OTOH one can look at the similar case of TUX/khttpd (also) has never been
merged into the kernel.
Regards,
Jan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-03-01 19:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-03-01 15:24 Tejun Heo
2011-03-01 16:57 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-01 17:09 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-01 17:12 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-01 17:21 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-01 18:34 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-01 23:51 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-02 7:10 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-02 5:07 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-02 7:44 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-02 11:32 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-02 11:52 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-02 14:50 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-02 13:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-03 0:47 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-03 1:30 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-03 1:55 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-03 7:03 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-01 19:06 ` Jan Kratochvil [this message]
2011-03-01 22:14 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-02 7:28 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-02 10:58 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-04 16:14 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-03-04 16:41 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-04 17:07 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-04 18:12 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-03-05 8:47 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-01 22:59 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-02 7:32 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-02 11:02 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-02 11:23 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-03 19:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-01 23:16 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-02 7:37 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-02 11:21 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-02 11:27 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-02 11:48 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-02 14:43 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-02 15:16 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-02 15:25 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-03 17:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-03 20:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-04 8:23 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-04 18:16 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-05 8:33 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-04 13:01 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-04 13:41 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-04 13:59 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-04 14:07 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-04 14:31 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-04 14:40 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-04 17:05 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-04 17:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-04 18:59 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-04 19:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-04 16:13 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-04 16:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-04 8:44 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-04 16:01 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-04 16:15 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-04 16:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-07 15:08 ` PTRACE_SEIZE/INTERRUPT: " Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-09 9:41 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-09 17:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-07 20:43 ` Roland McGrath
2011-03-09 10:28 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-10 18:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-03-11 8:13 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-11 8:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-11 9:35 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-03-11 9:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-14 1:03 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2011-03-10 15:55 ` Steven Rostedt
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