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From: Stephen Wilson <wilsons@start.ca>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Enable writing to /proc/PID/mem.
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 14:38:02 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110303193802.GA4994@fibrous.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110303111240.B942.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 11:22:59AM +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > For a long time /proc/PID/mem has provided a read-only interface, at least since
> > 2.4.0.  However, a write capability has existed "forever" in tree via the
> > function mem_write, disabled with an #ifdef along with the comment "this is a
> > security hazard".  Charles Wright, back in 2006, gave some history on the
> > subject:
> > 
> >     http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/3/10/224
> > 
> > Later, in commit 638fa202c, Roland McGrath updated mem_write to call
> > check_mem_permission which ensures an identical security policy for
> > /proc/PID/mem as for ptrace().  IOW, the proc interface provides a simpler, more
> > efficient, but otherwise equivalent mechanism for probing a processes memory as
> > available via ptrace.
> > 
> > There is no longer a security hazard and the world can safely use read/write
> > instead of ptrace PEEK/POKE's.  Remove the #ifdef.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Stephen Wilson <wilsons@start.ca>
> 
> I haven't found any problem in this patch. But, I really believe we need
> to understand why it was marked "security hazard". Al, I guess you know it,
> right? So, can you please talk us your mention?

I did a bit more digging trying to find why mem_write was marked a security
hazard.

It goes back to 2.4.0-test10pre4.  Unfortunately, the changelog entry is
not at all informative either:

	- disable writing to /proc/xxx/mem. Sure, it works now, but it's
	  still a security risk.

For the interested, some of the history is visible here:

	http://tinyurl.com/4aj4d3v


Personally, I have doubts that there is much to be gleaned from this
"security hazard" comment or any amount of archeology.

The code in question has been maintained for over a decade without use.
However, the implementation looks sane to me from a security POV as it
mirrors the policy for ptrace.  But it would be great to have a few more
eyes audit this change.

-- 
steve


  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-03 19:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-03  2:07 Stephen Wilson
2011-03-03  2:22 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-03 19:38   ` Stephen Wilson [this message]
2011-03-03 19:46     ` Al Viro
2011-03-03 21:58       ` Stephen Wilson

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