From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Stas Sergeev <stsp@aknet.ru>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [path][rfc] add PR_DETACH prctl command [2/2]
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 22:00:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110421200006.GA12248@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DAF439A.5020204@aknet.ru>
On 04/21, Stas Sergeev wrote:
> 20.04.2011 23:33, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>
>> I still do not understand the point of PR_DETACH. Why do you think it is
>> needed without reparenting? OK, I do not really care ;)
> Hmm, but that's really interesting, I wonder why do
> you ask this.
Because I do not understand why do we need this feature. And I strongly
dislike the complications this (wrong) patch adds.
> In my eyes, the reparenting was just a
> "trick",
Sure, I din't like the previous semantics too.
Once again, last time... No need to convince me. Please convince
someone who can ack this hack authoritatively. I can't anyway. And
I'm afraid nobody except Linus can decide whether we need it or not.
>From my side - nack. What can I do if I do not agree with you?
>>>> And. To hide the pr_detached task from do_wait(). you changed
>>>> do_notify_parent() to returnd DEATH_REAP.
>>> No, its hidden by the check in wait_consider_task().
>>> do_notify_parent() was changed only to not allow the
>>> second notification to the same parent.
>> Not only. Please look at your own code ;) wait_consider_task() checks
>> exit_state == EXIT_ZOMBIE before p->pr_detached, and thus do_notify_parent()
>> haas to return DEATH_REAP so that the caller will set EXIT_DEAD. Otherwise
>> the old parent could see EXIT_ZOMBIE&& pr_detached task again.
> Yes, but that's not to hide from do_wait().
> At least as far as I understand, exit_notify() does
> release_task() in this case, so that's not hiding: I
> literally terminate the child this way.
Yes. But there is a window before release_task() does this, we should
change task->state.
But I forgot where did we start... perhaps I missed something or meant
something else. Perhaps I disliked the fact wait_consider_task() checks
EXIT_ZOMBIE before pr_detached... Nevermind.
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-21 20:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-02-23 13:50 [path][rfc] add PR_DETACH prctl command Stas Sergeev
2011-02-23 19:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-23 20:35 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-02-24 13:29 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-24 15:13 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-02-24 15:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-31 16:10 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-03-31 17:02 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-31 17:47 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-03-31 18:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-31 20:58 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-02 13:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-04-02 18:20 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-02 22:00 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-01 17:02 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-02 14:06 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-04-04 14:34 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-04 16:03 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-04-04 20:05 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-05 15:15 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-04-05 16:25 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-05 16:45 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-04-05 17:51 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-08 10:51 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-08 18:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-04-08 20:16 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-11 11:15 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-19 14:44 ` [path][rfc] add PR_DETACH prctl command [1/3] Stas Sergeev
2011-04-19 14:50 ` [path][rfc] add PR_DETACH prctl command [2/3] Stas Sergeev
2011-04-19 14:54 ` [path][rfc] add PR_DETACH prctl command [3/3] Stas Sergeev
2011-04-19 14:58 ` Alan Cox
2011-04-19 15:08 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-19 15:54 ` Alan Cox
2011-04-19 16:13 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-04-19 16:29 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-04-19 16:54 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-19 17:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-04-19 17:41 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-19 18:17 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-04-19 16:19 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-20 13:12 ` [path][rfc] add PR_DETACH prctl command [1/2] Stas Sergeev
2011-04-20 13:14 ` [path][rfc] add PR_DETACH prctl command [2/2] Stas Sergeev
2011-04-20 16:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-04-20 18:45 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-20 19:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-04-20 20:35 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-21 20:00 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2011-04-21 20:11 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-21 10:02 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-21 20:15 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-04-21 20:32 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-08 18:13 ` [path][rfc] add PR_DETACH prctl command Bryan Donlan
2011-04-08 20:26 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-08 20:52 ` Bryan Donlan
2011-04-08 21:14 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-08 21:25 ` Bryan Donlan
2011-04-08 21:38 ` Stas Sergeev
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