From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>
Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
eranian@gmail.com, Arun Sharma <asharma@fb.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [generalized cache events] Re: [PATCH 1/1] perf tools: Add missing user space support for config1/config2
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 23:03:35 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110422210335.GB21364@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=jdSG1Zefn_b7Pv2NyT1jdREzW8w@mail.gmail.com>
* Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com> wrote:
> Let's go back to your example.
> Performance counter stats for './array' (10 runs):
>
> 6,719,130 cycles:u ( +- 0.662% )
> 5,084,792 instructions:u # 0.757 IPC ( +- 0.000% )
> 1,037,032 l1-dcache-loads:u ( +- 0.009% )
> 1,003,604 l1-dcache-load-misses:u ( +- 0.003% )
>
> Looking at this I don't think you can pinpoint which function has a problem
> [...]
In my previous mail i showed how to pinpoint specific functions. You bring up
an interesting question, cost/benefit analysis:
> [...] and whether or not there is a real problem. You need to evaluate the
> penalty. Once you know that you can estimate any potential gain from fixing
> the code. Arun pointed that out rightfully in his answer. How do you know the
> penalty if you don't decompose some more?
We can measure that even with today's tooling - which doesnt do cost/benefit
analysis out of box. In my previous example i showed the cachemisses profile:
weight samples pcnt funct DSO
______ _______ _____ _____ ______________________
1.9 6184 98.8% func2 /home/mingo/opt/array2
0.0 69 1.1% func1 /home/mingo/opt/array2
and here's the cycles profile:
samples pcnt funct DSO
_______ _____ _____ ______________________
2555.00 67.4% func2 /home/mingo/opt/array2
1220.00 32.2% func1 /home/mingo/opt/array2
So, given that there was no other big miss sources:
$ perf stat -a -e branch-misses:u -e l1-dcache-load-misses:u -e l1-dcache-store-misses:u -e l1-icache-load-misses:u sleep 1
Performance counter stats for 'sleep 1':
70,674 branch-misses:u
347,992,027 l1-dcache-load-misses:u
1,779 l1-dcache-store-misses:u
8,007 l1-icache-load-misses:u
1.000982021 seconds time elapsed
I can tell you that by fixing the cache-misses in that function, the code will
be roughly 33% faster.
So i fixed the bug, and before it 100 iterations of func1+func2 took 300 msecs:
$ perf stat -e cpu-clock --repeat 10 ./array2
Performance counter stats for './array2' (10 runs):
298.405074 cpu-clock ( +- 1.823% )
After the fix it took 190 msecs:
$ perf stat -e cpu-clock --repeat 10 ./array2
Performance counter stats for './array2' (10 runs):
189.409569 cpu-clock ( +- 0.019% )
0.190007596 seconds time elapsed ( +- 0.025% )
Which is 63% of the original speed - 37% faster. And no, i first did the
calculation, then did the measurement of the optimized code.
Now it would be nice to automate such analysis some more within perf - but i
think i have established the principle well enough that we can use generic
cache events for such measurements.
Also, we could certainly add more generic events - a stalled-cycles event would
certainly be useful for example, to collect all (or at least most) 'harmful
delays' the execution flow can experience. Want to take a stab at that patch?
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-22 21:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-22 8:47 Stephane Eranian
2011-04-22 9:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-22 9:41 ` Stephane Eranian
2011-04-22 10:52 ` [generalized cache events] " Ingo Molnar
2011-04-22 12:04 ` Stephane Eranian
2011-04-22 13:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-22 20:31 ` Stephane Eranian
2011-04-22 20:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-23 12:13 ` Stephane Eranian
2011-04-23 12:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-22 21:03 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2011-04-23 12:27 ` Stephane Eranian
2011-04-22 16:51 ` Andi Kleen
2011-04-22 19:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-26 9:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-22 16:50 ` arun
2011-04-22 17:00 ` Andi Kleen
2011-04-22 20:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-22 20:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-23 0:03 ` Andi Kleen
2011-04-23 7:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-23 12:06 ` Stephane Eranian
2011-04-23 12:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-23 13:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-25 18:48 ` Stephane Eranian
2011-04-25 19:40 ` Andi Kleen
2011-04-25 19:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-24 2:15 ` Andi Kleen
2011-04-24 2:19 ` Andi Kleen
2011-04-25 17:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-25 18:00 ` Dehao Chen
[not found] ` <BANLkTiks31-pMJe4zCKrppsrA1d6KanJFA@mail.gmail.com>
2011-04-25 18:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-25 18:39 ` Stephane Eranian
2011-04-25 19:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-23 8:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-23 20:14 ` [PATCH] perf events: Add stalled cycles generic event - PERF_COUNT_HW_STALLED_CYCLES Ingo Molnar
2011-04-24 6:16 ` Arun Sharma
2011-04-25 17:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-26 9:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-26 14:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-27 11:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-27 14:47 ` Arun Sharma
2011-04-27 15:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-27 16:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-27 19:05 ` Arun Sharma
2011-04-27 19:03 ` Arun Sharma
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