From: Tyler Hicks <tyhicks@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
Cc: Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@polito.it>,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
dhowells@redhat.com, jmorris@namei.org, zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
safford@watson.ibm.com, kirkland@canonical.com,
ecryptfs-devel@lists.launchpad.net, eparis@redhat.com,
sds@tycho.nsa.gov, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov,
viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/7] File descriptor labeling
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:27:19 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110427232718.GG30854@boyd.l.tihix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DB87A6B.7060805@schaufler-ca.com>
On Wed Apr 27, 2011 at 01:19:55PM -0700, Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com> wrote:
> On 4/27/2011 5:34 AM, Roberto Sassu wrote:
> > File descriptor labeling issue
> >
> > Actually SELinux and SMACK assign to file descriptors the same label of the
> > opening process and use it in LSM hooks security_file_permission(),
> > security_file_fcntl() and others to verify if the 'current' process has the
> > rights to perform the requested operation.
> >
> > Using the credentials of the 'current' process may be not appropriate in
> > case a file descriptor is opened by a kernel service (i.e. a filesystem)
> > and made shared among user processes. For instance, in a system with
> > SELinux and eCryptfs, if the process A opens an encrypted file, eCryptfs
> > obtains a file descriptor to access the correspondent inode in the lower
> > filesystem, labeled with the A's label.
> >
> > If the process B accesses the same encrypted file, it needs the 'use'
> > permission on the A's label other than permissions for the lower inode.
> > However, if B is the first accessing process, A needs the 'use' permission
> > on the B's label.
>
> I am having trouble understanding the argument. I will pose my
> question in Smack terms, as I can speak most definitively in them.
>
> A process running with a Smack label "A" creates a file, and that
> file gets labeled "A", as it ought. If eCryptfs is behaving correctly
> this ought not change. If eCryptfs in encrypting the label it needs
> to do so in such a way as to be able to decrypt it prior to
> presentation to the vfs layer, where it will be used in an access
> check. When the process running with a Smack label "B" comes along
> the vfs code will check the fetched and possibly decrypted "A"
> against "B" and, unless there is an explicit Smack rule in place
> granting "B" access to "A", fail.
>
> What is the problem? What is eCryptfs doing that prevents this
> from working?
Hi Casey - I think what Roberto is getting at is the way eCryptfs uses
only one lower file per eCryptfs inode. Imagine that there are 5
files open for ~/secret/foo at the eCryptfs layer, only 1 file is going
to be open in the lower filesystem and all eCryptfs file operations will
be multiplexed through it.
To make things more complicated, if the eCryptfs file is opened for
writing, the lower file must be opened for reading and writing. This is
because a write operation requires eCryptfs to vfs_read() from the lower
filesystem, decrypt that data and then vfs_write() the new data.
If the lower file can't be opened O_RDWR by the calling process, the
request is handed off to a kernel thread to open the lower file on
behalf of the calling process. It is definitely ugly.
Roberto, I hope I correctly described the situation that you're trying
to address. Can you tell me why we can't have a 1:1 mapping of eCryptfs
files to lower files?
Instead of having just one lower file attached to the eCryptfs inode, we
could have a list of opened files. There would be one for each eCryptfs
file that was opened. ecryptfs_writepage() would have to pick, in a
somewhat random fashion, one of the lower files to use. Of course, we
would still need to solve the problem of opening the lower file O_RDWR
when the calling process is only allowed write access (I may have just
answered my own question of why the 1:1 mapping technique won't solve
this problem).
Tyler
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-27 23:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-27 12:34 Roberto Sassu
2011-04-27 12:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/7] fs: initialize file->f_cred with credentials provided Roberto Sassu
2011-04-27 12:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/7] selinux: label new file descriptors using file->f_cred Roberto Sassu
2011-04-27 12:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/7] smack: assign the label set in file->f_cred to new file descriptors Roberto Sassu
2011-04-27 23:26 ` Casey Schaufler
2011-04-28 8:06 ` Roberto Sassu
2011-04-27 12:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/7] smack: fix label check in smack_kernel_act_as() Roberto Sassu
2011-04-27 23:22 ` Casey Schaufler
2011-04-28 9:22 ` Roberto Sassu
2011-04-27 12:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/7] smack: import the security label in smack_secctx_to_secid() Roberto Sassu
2011-04-27 23:47 ` Casey Schaufler
2011-04-27 12:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/7] security: new LSM hook security_file_getsecid() Roberto Sassu
2011-04-27 23:50 ` Casey Schaufler
2011-04-28 9:41 ` Roberto Sassu
2011-04-27 12:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/7] ima: added new LSM conditions in the policy Roberto Sassu
2011-04-28 13:32 ` Mimi Zohar
2011-04-28 13:52 ` Roberto Sassu
2011-04-27 15:52 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/7] File descriptor labeling Casey Schaufler
2011-04-27 20:19 ` Casey Schaufler
2011-04-27 23:27 ` Tyler Hicks [this message]
2011-04-27 23:57 ` Casey Schaufler
2011-04-28 0:06 ` Tyler Hicks
2011-04-28 12:35 ` Roberto Sassu
2011-04-28 17:37 ` Casey Schaufler
2011-04-28 17:56 ` Eric Paris
2011-04-29 9:39 Roberto Sassu
2011-04-29 15:46 ` Casey Schaufler
2011-05-02 8:53 ` Roberto Sassu
2011-05-03 22:58 ` Casey Schaufler
2011-05-03 23:58 ` John Johansen
2011-05-04 8:47 ` Roberto Sassu
2011-05-04 17:34 ` Casey Schaufler
2011-05-04 9:19 ` Roberto Sassu
2011-05-04 17:42 ` Casey Schaufler
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