From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] writeback: introduce wbc.tagged_sync for the WB_SYNC_NONE sync stage
Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 15:55:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110505135508.GE5323@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110505121402.GA1294@localhost>
On Thu 05-05-11 20:14:02, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 05:00:59AM +0800, Jan Kara wrote:
> > On Mon 02-05-11 11:17:51, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > sync(2) is performed in two stages: the WB_SYNC_NONE sync and the
> > > WB_SYNC_ALL sync. Tag the first stage with wbc.tagged_sync and do
> > > livelock prevention for it, too.
> > >
> > > Note that writeback_inodes_sb() is called by not only sync(), they are
> > > treated the same because the other callers need also need livelock
> > > prevention.
> > I was thinking about this and could not find any - which other callers
> > of writeback_inodes_sb() need the livelock prevention?
>
> For example, the writeback_inodes_sb_if_idle() call from ext4.
> In general anyone that pass get_nr_dirty_pages() as work->nr_pages
> may be highly over-estimating the work set.
OK, I see what you mean. I agree using tagging in these cases probably
makes sense.
> It won't be directly livelocked since ext4 won't wait for completion,
> however there is possibility the works queued behind are delayed and
> livelocked.
Actually it will, writeback_inodes_sb() waits for completion (because of
s_umount locking). ext4 should use writeback_inodes_sb_if_idle_nr() (with
some relatively small number) anyway to avoid the pauses.
> Ideally simple ->nr_pages works should be given lower priority and
> even may be merged with each other, and that would be future work.
Merging works wanting to do the same thing would be nice. I though about
it some time ago for a while but getting all the combinations right and
making the merging code resonably simple was hard so I postponed it for
later because it was not urgent.
Honza
--
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-05 13:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-02 3:17 [PATCH 0/3] sync livelock fixes v2 Wu Fengguang
2011-05-02 3:17 ` [PATCH 1/3] writeback: introduce wbc.tagged_sync for the WB_SYNC_NONE sync stage Wu Fengguang
2011-05-04 21:00 ` Jan Kara
2011-05-05 12:14 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-05 13:55 ` Jan Kara [this message]
2011-05-05 14:06 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-02 3:17 ` [PATCH 2/3] writeback: update dirtied_when for synced inode to prevent livelock Wu Fengguang
2011-05-04 21:10 ` Jan Kara
2011-05-05 12:18 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-02 3:17 ` [PATCH 3/3] writeback: avoid extra sync work at enqueue time Wu Fengguang
2011-05-04 21:24 ` Jan Kara
2011-05-05 12:27 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-05 12:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-05 12:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-05 12:48 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-05 14:01 ` Jan Kara
2011-05-05 14:10 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-05 14:13 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-05 14:34 ` Jan Kara
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