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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 5/5] KVM: Expose a version 1 architectural PMU to guests
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 13:07:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110518110759.GB16556@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DD38B57.2070904@redhat.com>


* Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> wrote:

> >>  - some combinations of INV and CMASK are not supported
> >
> > Could you please describe this better, where does this limit come from? If 
> > perf then this needs fixing.
> 
> perf_event_attr does not support generic INV and CMASK at all. [...]

It does through raw events - which are indeed model specific.

> [...]  I imagine you can get them through the model-specific hardware 
> configuration, but that means we have to encode model specific information 
> into kvm host code, which is (a) hard (b) counter to the spirit of perf.
> 
> (INV and CMASK allow you to increment the counter only when > N or <
> N events occur simultaneously, for example count when 2 or more
> instructions are retired in a single clock).

Peter, what do you think about adding a inv and cmask attribute that is applied 
to generic events automatically?

I *think* it should work just out of box: we recognize the fixed-purpose 
counter events based on their raw value, so if one comes in with inv and cmask 
set it will just be scheduled on a generic hw counter.

> >  - we could do things like propagate guest side traces over to the host
> 
> We support that already via 'perf kvm', no? [...]

Not without usability issues, if you remember that flamewa^W thread! :-)

> [...] This is more about the guest profiling itself without access to the 
> host (which is the more common scenario, IMO).

Correct - so there would be interactions with virtio-perf. I think the two will 
just have to be made to mix well, that's all.

> We're still missing tunnelling guest ftrace to the host, but a patch was 
> recently posted to do that.

If you tunnel guest perf events then ftrace events are included automatically.  
That's the primary/unified event transport model we are working towards.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-18 11:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-11 15:55 [PATCH v1 0/5] KVM in-guest performance monitoring Avi Kivity
2011-05-11 15:55 ` [PATCH v1 1/5] perf: add context parameter to perf_event overflow handler Avi Kivity
2011-06-03 14:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-05  8:07     ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-11 15:55 ` [PATCH v1 2/5] x86, perf: add constraints for architectural PMU v1 Avi Kivity
2011-05-11 15:55 ` [PATCH v1 3/5] perf: export perf_event_refresh() to modules Avi Kivity
2011-05-11 15:55 ` [PATCH v1 4/5] KVM: Expose kvm_lapic_local_deliver() Avi Kivity
2011-05-11 15:55 ` [PATCH v1 5/5] KVM: Expose a version 1 architectural PMU to guests Avi Kivity
2011-05-17 19:41   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-18  9:03     ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-18 11:07       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2011-05-18 11:29         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-18 11:57           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-18 11:32         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-18 11:37           ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-18 12:35             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-18 12:49               ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-03 14:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-05  8:12     ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-03 14:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-05  8:12     ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-12  9:33 ` [PATCH v1 0/5] KVM in-guest performance monitoring Joerg Roedel
2011-05-12  9:47   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-12  9:53     ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-12 13:11     ` Joerg Roedel
2011-05-12 13:23       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-12 13:43         ` Joerg Roedel
2011-05-12 13:31       ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-12 14:24         ` Joerg Roedel
2011-05-12 14:37           ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-12 14:45             ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-13 12:34             ` Joerg Roedel
2011-05-12  9:51   ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-12 13:06     ` Joerg Roedel
2011-05-12 13:38       ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-12 14:29         ` Joerg Roedel
2011-05-17  9:52 ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-01  9:45   ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-01 10:26     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-01 11:26       ` Avi Kivity

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