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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: markgross@thegnar.org
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Raffaele Recalcati <lamiaposta71@gmail.com>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	davinci-linux-open-source@linux.davincidsp.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] pm loss development
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:36:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110614153630.023eeeef@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110614140642.GA14509@gvim.org>

> I know nothing about journalling file systems or how well they limit the
> critical sections of time where the file system is exposed to corruption
> from sudden power failure.  Its an interesting question though.

A properly written journalling file system has no critical sections. The
only things it relies upon are

- store ordering in the drive working properly
- a single disk block write being atomic

the former is well specified even for ATA devices, the latter is a pretty
safe property of rotating media, although in theory you have a finite
chance of getting a bad sector.

For flash it's a lot lot more complicated but for a flash device claiming
to be ATA compliant you ought to get ATA behaviour.

All that said there is still (as ever) a tiny chance your system may
malfunction. It's all down to probabilities and if your laptop explodes
you need a backup (trust me, I've tested this case).

Alan


  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-14 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-12 17:11 Raffaele Recalcati
2011-05-12 17:11 ` [PATCH 1/4] export bus_kset Raffaele Recalcati
2011-05-12 19:28   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-05-13 17:11     ` Davide Ciminaghi
2011-05-15 14:13       ` [linux-pm] " Davide Ciminaghi
2011-05-17 23:04         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-05-12 17:11 ` [PATCH 2/4] PM / Loss: power loss management Raffaele Recalcati
2011-05-12 19:57   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-05-13 13:02     ` Davide Ciminaghi
2011-05-17 23:32       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-05-19  9:26         ` Davide Ciminaghi
2011-05-19 14:25           ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2011-05-19 20:52             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-05-12 17:11 ` [PATCH 3/4] mmc: bus and block device drivers: support for pm_loss Raffaele Recalcati
2011-05-12 17:11 ` [PATCH 4/4] DaVinci: vpfe: " Raffaele Recalcati
2011-05-12 19:27 ` pm loss development Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-05-13  6:39   ` Raffaele Recalcati
2011-05-13 16:54     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-05-14 16:35       ` [linux-pm] " mark gross
2011-05-17 23:07         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-05-18  3:12           ` mark gross
2011-05-18 19:43             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-05-18 22:17               ` Mark Brown
2011-05-19 12:45               ` mark gross
2011-06-02 22:21               ` Pavel Machek
2011-06-14 14:06                 ` mark gross
2011-06-14 14:36                   ` Alan Cox [this message]
2011-05-14 20:21       ` Raffaele Recalcati
2011-05-17 23:10         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-05-14 18:53   ` [linux-pm] " Oliver Neukum
2011-05-14 20:34     ` Raffaele Recalcati
2011-05-17 23:06       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-05-14 16:24 ` mark gross
2011-05-14 20:30   ` Raffaele Recalcati
2011-05-14 23:33     ` mark gross

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