From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754246Ab1HaT4y (ORCPT ); Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:56:54 -0400 Received: from earthlight.etchedpixels.co.uk ([81.2.110.250]:45937 "EHLO www.etchedpixels.co.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752546Ab1HaT4x (ORCPT ); Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:56:53 -0400 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:54:39 +0100 From: Alan Cox To: "H. Peter Anvin" Cc: Arnd Bergmann , Linus Torvalds , Christoph Hellwig , LKML , "H.J. Lu" , Ingo Molnar , Thomas Gleixner , Richard Kuo , Mark Salter , Jonas Bonn , Tobias Klauser Subject: Re: RFD: x32 ABI system call numbers Message-ID: <20110831205439.1a0c94da@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <4E5E8F04.9030303@zytor.com> References: <4E582577.2060805@zytor.com> <201108311839.52863.arnd@arndb.de> <1397886.AAh13B9r2H@wuerfel> <4E5E8F04.9030303@zytor.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.24.4; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:44:04 -0700 "H. Peter Anvin" wrote: > On 08/31/2011 12:18 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > >> > >> You do realize that there are probably quite a lot of programs that > >> depend on signed time_t because they really do care about dates before > >> 1970? > > > > Yes, it already occurred to me after I had written the above that we > > really want it to be signed, especially to allow a meaningful conversion > > at least one-way between 32 and 64 bit time_t values. > > > > The only reason I mentioned redefining 32-bit time_t as unsigned was for > *legacy ABIs*. But if you redefine it then it's not a legacy ABI any more - its a new ABI. Might as well just cause the pain. 64bit has already done much of the cleaning up.