From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752135Ab1IGAWb (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Sep 2011 20:22:31 -0400 Received: from cantor2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:45222 "EHLO mx2.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751062Ab1IGAWX (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Sep 2011 20:22:23 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 02:22:22 +0200 From: Jan Kara To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Wu Fengguang , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , Jan Kara , Christoph Hellwig , Dave Chinner , Greg Thelen , Minchan Kim , Vivek Goyal , Andrea Righi , linux-mm , LKML Subject: Re: [PATCH 17/18] writeback: fix dirtied pages accounting on redirty Message-ID: <20110907002222.GF31945@quack.suse.cz> References: <20110904015305.367445271@intel.com> <20110904020916.841463184@intel.com> <1315325936.14232.22.camel@twins> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1315325936.14232.22.camel@twins> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue 06-09-11 18:18:56, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Sun, 2011-09-04 at 09:53 +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote: > > De-account the accumulative dirty counters on page redirty. > > > > Page redirties (very common in ext4) will introduce mismatch between > > counters (a) and (b) > > > > a) NR_DIRTIED, BDI_DIRTIED, tsk->nr_dirtied > > b) NR_WRITTEN, BDI_WRITTEN > > > > This will introduce systematic errors in balanced_rate and result in > > dirty page position errors (ie. the dirty pages are no longer balanced > > around the global/bdi setpoints). > > > > So wtf is ext4 doing? Shouldn't a page stay dirty until its written out? > > That is, should we really frob around this behaviour or fix ext4 because > its on crack? Fengguang, could you please verify your findings with recent kernel? I believe ext4 got fixed in this regard some time ago already (and yes, old delalloc writeback code in ext4 was terrible). Honza -- Jan Kara SUSE Labs, CR