From: Pedro Alves <pedro@codesourcery.com>
To: Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@googlemail.com>
Cc: "Indan Zupancic" <indan@nul.nu>,
"Oleg Nesterov" <oleg@redhat.com>, "Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
"Denys Vlasenko" <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Why I want PTRACE_O_TRACESTOP option
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 12:20:54 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201109101220.54577.pedro@codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201109100317.03979.vda.linux@googlemail.com>
On Saturday 10 September 2011 02:17:03, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> On Saturday 10 September 2011 01:09, Indan Zupancic wrote:
> > On Fri, September 9, 2011 18:26, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > On 09/09, Indan Zupancic wrote:
> > >>
> > >> It is very useful to set options atomically at SEIZE time.
> > >
> > > Nobody argues with this.
> > >
> > >> Another important reason to make PTRACE_O_TRACESTOP an option is
> > >> because not everyone uses SEIZE: Users using PTRACE_TRACEME can't
> > >> set this option at all.
> > >
> > > Yes. This was already discussed, PTRACE_TRACEME obviously doesn't
> > > work if you need the new features. So far it was decided TRACEME
> > > should be avoided,
> >
> > How do you want to attach/seize a just forked child without races
> > in a less ugly way than with TRACEME?
>
> I needed to do it when I was adding usage of SEIZE to strace.
> It goes like this:
>
> - fork
> - child: raise(SIGSTOP)
> - parent: waits until it sees child stopping
> - parent: seizes the child
> - parent: kill(child, SIGCONT)
You can do without SIGSTOP/signals:
- pipe
- fork
- child: block reading pipe
- parent: seizes the child
- parent: whatever else needs doing (e.g, interrupt and set options if not already done at seize time)
- parent: close the pipe
- child: notices pipe closed, moves on.
GDB already does something similar for other OSs (darwin/OSX, ttrace/HP-UX).
--
Pedro Alves
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-09-10 11:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-09-08 16:50 Denys Vlasenko
2011-09-09 0:18 ` Tejun Heo
2011-09-09 5:45 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-09-09 16:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-09-10 23:43 ` Tejun Heo
2011-09-09 5:54 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-09-09 12:26 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-09-09 13:01 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-09-09 16:46 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-09-09 16:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-09-09 23:09 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-09-10 1:17 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-09-10 11:20 ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2011-09-11 0:58 ` Tejun Heo
2011-09-09 16:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
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