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From: Pedro Alves <pedro@codesourcery.com>
To: Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@googlemail.com>
Cc: "Indan Zupancic" <indan@nul.nu>,
	"Oleg Nesterov" <oleg@redhat.com>, "Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
	"Denys Vlasenko" <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Why I want PTRACE_O_TRACESTOP option
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 12:20:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201109101220.54577.pedro@codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201109100317.03979.vda.linux@googlemail.com>

On Saturday 10 September 2011 02:17:03, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> On Saturday 10 September 2011 01:09, Indan Zupancic wrote:
> > On Fri, September 9, 2011 18:26, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > On 09/09, Indan Zupancic wrote:
> > >>
> > >> It is very useful to set options atomically at SEIZE time.
> > >
> > > Nobody argues with this.
> > >
> > >> Another important reason to make PTRACE_O_TRACESTOP an option is
> > >> because not everyone uses SEIZE: Users using PTRACE_TRACEME can't
> > >> set this option at all.
> > >
> > > Yes. This was already discussed, PTRACE_TRACEME obviously doesn't
> > > work if you need the new features. So far it was decided TRACEME
> > > should be avoided,
> > 
> > How do you want to attach/seize a just forked child without races
> > in a less ugly way than with TRACEME?
> 
> I needed to do it when I was adding usage of SEIZE to strace.
> It goes like this:
> 
> - fork
> - child: raise(SIGSTOP)
> - parent: waits until it sees child stopping
> - parent: seizes the child
> - parent: kill(child, SIGCONT)

You can do without SIGSTOP/signals:

- pipe
- fork
- child: block reading pipe
- parent: seizes the child
- parent: whatever else needs doing (e.g, interrupt and set options if not already done at seize time)
- parent: close the pipe
- child: notices pipe closed, moves on.

GDB already does something similar for other OSs (darwin/OSX, ttrace/HP-UX).

-- 
Pedro Alves

  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-10 11:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-08 16:50 Denys Vlasenko
2011-09-09  0:18 ` Tejun Heo
2011-09-09  5:45   ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-09-09 16:00     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-09-10 23:43       ` Tejun Heo
2011-09-09  5:54   ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-09-09 12:26     ` Indan Zupancic
2011-09-09 13:01       ` Indan Zupancic
2011-09-09 16:46         ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-09-09 16:26       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-09-09 23:09         ` Indan Zupancic
2011-09-10  1:17           ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-09-10 11:20             ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2011-09-11  0:58     ` Tejun Heo
2011-09-09 16:14   ` Oleg Nesterov

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