From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com
Subject: Re: linux-next-20110923: warning kernel/rcutree.c:1833
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 18:59:24 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111006015924.GA2827@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111006005858.GA27619@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 05:58:58PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 09:30:36AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 03:03:48PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > > On Sun, Oct 02, 2011 at 05:32:47PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > > > -void rcu_irq_enter(void)
> > > > > > +int rcu_is_cpu_idle(void)
> > > > > > {
> > > > > > - rcu_exit_nohz();
> > > > > > + return (atomic_read(&__get_cpu_var(rcu_dynticks).dynticks) & 0x1) == 0;
> > > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > > So that's not used in this patch but it's interesting for me
> > > > > to backport "rcu: Detect illegal rcu dereference in extended quiescent state".
> > > >
> > > > Yep, that is why it is there.
> > >
> > > Ok.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > The above should be read from a preempt disabled section though
> > > > > (remember "rcu: Fix preempt-unsafe debug check of rcu extended quiescent state")
> > > >
> > > > Yes, and that is why the last line of the header comment reads "The
> > > > caller must have at least disabled preemption." Disabling preemption
> > > > is not necessary in Tiny RCU because there is no other CPU for the task
> > > > to go to. (Right?)
> > >
> > > Right.
> > >
> > > > > Those functions should probably lay in a separate patch. But I don't mind
> > > > > much keeping the things as is and use these APIs in my next patches though.
> > > > > I'll just fix the preempt enabled thing above.
> > > >
> > > > Or were you saying that you wish to make calls to rcu_is_cpu_idle()
> > > > that have preemption enabled?
> > >
> > > Yeah. That's going to be called from places like rcu_read_lock_held()
> > > and things like this that don't need to disable preemption themselves.
> > >
> > > Would be better to disable preemption from that function.
> >
> > Hmmm... This might be a good use for the "drive-by" per-CPU access
> > functions.
> >
> > No, that doesn't work. We could pick up the pointer, switch to another
> > CPU, the original CPU could run a task that blocks before we start running,
> > and then we could incorrectly decide that we were running in idle context,
> > issuing a spurious warning. This approach would only work in environments
> > that (unlike the Linux kernel) mapped all the per-CPU variables to the
> > same virtual address on all CPUs. (DYNIX/ptx did this, but this leads
> > to other problems, like being unable to reasonably access other CPUs'
> > variables. Double mapping has other issues on some architectures.)
> >
> > OK, agreed. I will make this function disable preemption.
> >
> > > > And I can split the patch easily enough while keeping the diff the same,
> > > > so you should be able to do your porting on top of the existing code.
> > >
> > > No I'm actually pretty fine with the current state. Whether that's defined
> > > in this patch or a following one is actually not important.
> >
> > Fair enough!
>
> And here is an update that might handle an irq entry/exit miscounting
> problem. Thanks to Arjan van de Ven for pointing out that my earlier
> approach would in fact miscount irq entries/exits in face of things like
> upcalls to user-mode helpers.
>
> This is experimental, and might well hurt more than it helps. Testing
> ongoing. Applies on top of my "Track idleness independent of idle tasks"
> commit. Right... And the tracing relies on a later patch, so feel free
> to yank the calls to trace_rcu_dyntick() on the off-chance that you are
> crazy enough to actually try this.
>
> Thoughts?
For the code currently in mainline, I hasten to add. For your use,
Frederic, I need to handle the case where a user process is idle
from an RCU viewpoint. I will be looking into this, but in the
meantime I wanted to prove/disprove that this is the source of the
failures that I have been seeing.
Thanx, Paul
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Not-yet-signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
>
> diff --git a/kernel/rcutree.c b/kernel/rcutree.c
> index 06c0ed4..d4247e0 100644
> --- a/kernel/rcutree.c
> +++ b/kernel/rcutree.c
> @@ -356,6 +356,11 @@ void rcu_idle_enter(void)
>
> local_irq_save(flags);
> rdtp = &__get_cpu_var(rcu_dynticks);
> + if (!idle_cpu(smp_processor_id())) {
> + trace_rcu_dyntick("--|", rdtp->dynticks_nesting);
> + local_irq_restore(flags);
> + return;
> + }
> if (--rdtp->dynticks_nesting) {
> trace_rcu_dyntick("--=", rdtp->dynticks_nesting);
> local_irq_restore(flags);
> @@ -384,6 +389,11 @@ void rcu_idle_exit(void)
>
> local_irq_save(flags);
> rdtp = &__get_cpu_var(rcu_dynticks);
> + if (!idle_cpu(smp_processor_id())) {
> + trace_rcu_dyntick("++|", rdtp->dynticks_nesting);
> + local_irq_restore(flags);
> + return;
> + }
> if (rdtp->dynticks_nesting++) {
> trace_rcu_dyntick("++=", rdtp->dynticks_nesting);
> local_irq_restore(flags);
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-10-06 2:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-09-25 0:24 Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-09-25 5:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-25 11:26 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-09-25 13:06 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-09-25 14:19 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-09-25 16:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-26 1:04 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-09-26 1:10 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-09-26 1:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-26 1:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-26 9:39 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-09-26 22:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-27 12:07 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-09-26 9:42 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-09-26 22:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-26 9:20 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-09-26 22:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-27 12:16 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-09-27 18:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-28 12:31 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-09-28 18:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-28 23:46 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-09-29 0:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-29 4:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-29 12:30 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-09-29 17:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-29 17:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-29 23:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-30 13:11 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-09-30 15:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-30 19:24 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-10-01 4:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-10-01 12:24 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-10-01 12:28 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-10-01 16:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-10-01 17:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-10-02 3:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-10-02 11:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-10-02 22:50 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-10-03 0:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-10-03 12:59 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-10-03 16:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-10-03 17:11 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-10-02 23:07 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-10-03 0:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-10-03 13:03 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-10-03 16:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-10-06 0:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-10-06 1:59 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2011-10-06 12:11 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-10-06 18:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-10-06 23:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-26 1:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-26 8:48 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-09-26 8:49 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-09-26 22:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-27 11:55 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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