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From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Steve French <sfrench@samba.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	trond.myklebust@netapp.com, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] freezer: revert 27920651fe "PM / Freezer: Make fake_signal_wake_up() wake TASK_KILLABLE tasks too"
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 07:15:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111103071516.79fb42fa@tlielax.poochiereds.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201111030011.24062.rjw@sisk.pl>

On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 00:11:23 +0100
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl> wrote:

> On Wednesday, November 02, 2011, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On 11/01, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > >
> > > For now, let's go with the count/dont_count.  Can you please write up
> > > a patch for that?  Jeff, does this seem okay to you?
> > 
> > OK, will do in a minute. On top of
> > "[PATCH pm] freezer: fix wait_event_freezable/__thaw_task races"
> > you sent. (btw, thanks, I forgout about it ;)
> > 
> > Rafael, could you remind why freezer_do_not_count/freezer_count check
> > ->mm != NULL ?
> 
> You're asking difficult questions. ;-)
> 
> The intention was to prevent PF_FREEZER_SKIP from having any effect on
> kernel threads, IIRC.  Anyway, there are only two legitimate users of it
> (vfork and apm_ioctl) and in both cases the task in question is user space.
> 
> > The comment says "However, we don't want kernel threads to be frozen",
> > but it is not clear anyway. A kernel thread simply shouldn't use this
> > interface if it doesn't want to freeze.
> > 
> > And in any case, PF_KTHREAD looks better if we really need to filter
> > out the kernel threads.
> 
> PF_FREEZER_SKIP was introduced specifically with vfork in mind and I'm not
> sure if it's a good idea to re-use it for something else (at least not for
> something entirely obvious).
> 

FWIW, wrapping wait_event_killable in freezer_do_not_count/freezer_count
seems to work. The machine suspends consistently with it. It sounds
like Rafael has concerns about this scheme however, so I'll let you
guys argue this out :)

Once you tell me the right scheme to use, I'll be happy to fix up cifs
and nfs to use it.

Thanks,
-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>

  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-03 11:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-31 22:17 Tejun Heo
2011-10-31 23:17 ` Tejun Heo
2011-10-31 23:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-10-31 23:30   ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-01  0:55     ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-01  8:13       ` Jeff Layton
2011-11-01 10:59         ` Jeff Layton
2011-11-01 16:30           ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-01 16:49             ` Trond Myklebust
2011-11-01 16:55               ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-01 17:59             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-01 18:06               ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-01 18:13                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-01 18:27                   ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-01 19:39                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-01 19:46                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-01 21:57                         ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-02 11:42                           ` Jeff Layton
2011-11-02 15:13                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-02 16:23                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-02 23:11                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-11-03 11:15                               ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2011-11-03 15:10                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-02 17:53                           ` [PATCH] wait_event_freezekillable: use freezer_do_not_count/freezer_count Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-03 10:42                             ` Jeff Layton
2011-11-03 14:13                               ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-03 15:27                                 ` Jeff Layton
2011-11-03 15:30                                   ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-01 18:26                 ` [RFC PATCH] freezer: revert 27920651fe "PM / Freezer: Make fake_signal_wake_up() wake TASK_KILLABLE tasks too" Jeff Layton
2011-10-31 23:45   ` Steve French
2011-10-31 23:53     ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-01  0:02       ` Steve French
2011-11-01 17:50 ` Oleg Nesterov

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