From: Max Kellermann <max@duempel.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] new cgroup controller "fork"
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 19:51:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111103185108.GA5153@Debian-60-squeeze-64-minimal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111103182101.5037c1e5@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
On 2011/11/03 19:21, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
> > After little discussion, nobody seemed to be interested in it, and
> > nobody merged it. I reposted it today, not knowing somebody else had
> > come up with a similar idea meanwhile.
>
> I don't really see a meaningful use case for this. Why should millions of
> users have this stuff in their kernel. What's the general purpose use
> case we should all be excited about ?
Putting a reasonable limit on jobs that are expected to run only for a
limited amount of time, with a limited amount of total resources. For
example: CGI, cron jobs, backup, munin plugins, virus scanners and
other email filters, procmail, ... - when the job is done, the group
can be deleted, and new instances will run in a new group.
With just RLIMIT_NPROC or task_counter, you can limit the total number
of processes, but it will not stop a fork bomb - it will only slow it
down. The fork bomb will still bounce between 1 and the limit, and
consume lots of resources for forking and exiting.
(Glauber: the above should answer your last email, too)
Similar existing feature: RLIMIT_CPU. Millions of users have it in
their kernels, but nobody uses it nowadays. And it's not even
optional.
Btw. I have no problem with maintaining this patch (and a whole bunch
of others) in my proprietary git repository at work forever. They're
very useful for my employer. I'm just trying to be a good citizen by
sharing them.
Max
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-11-03 18:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-11-03 16:22 Max Kellermann
2011-11-03 16:43 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-11-03 17:16 ` Max Kellermann
2011-11-03 17:26 ` Glauber Costa
2011-11-03 17:48 ` Max Kellermann
2011-11-03 17:50 ` Glauber Costa
2011-11-03 18:30 ` Max Kellermann
2011-11-03 18:34 ` Glauber Costa
2011-11-03 16:43 ` Glauber Costa
2011-11-03 16:59 ` Max Kellermann
2011-11-03 17:05 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-11-03 18:21 ` Alan Cox
2011-11-03 18:51 ` Max Kellermann [this message]
2011-11-03 18:56 ` Glauber Costa
2011-11-03 20:08 ` Matt Helsley
2011-11-03 19:03 ` Alan Cox
2011-11-03 19:20 ` Max Kellermann
2011-11-03 19:25 ` Glauber Costa
2011-11-03 20:13 ` Brian K. White
2011-11-03 21:54 ` Glauber Costa
2011-11-04 3:03 ` Li Zefan
2011-11-04 4:37 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-04 13:11 ` Glauber Costa
2011-11-04 13:38 ` Max Kellermann
2011-11-04 13:59 ` Lennart Poettering
2011-11-03 17:31 ` richard -rw- weinberger
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-02-17 13:31 Max Kellermann
2011-02-17 13:50 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-02-17 14:09 ` Max Kellermann
2011-02-18 0:59 ` Paul Menage
2011-02-18 9:26 ` Max Kellermann
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