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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>,
	richard@nod.at, containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, oleg@redhat.com,
	dhowells@redhat.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] protect cap_netlink_recv from user namespaces
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 23:25:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111119232537.GB13312@hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m11ut41nqy.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>

Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm@xmission.com):
> Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 03:29 +0000, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> >> Quoting Eric Paris (eparis@redhat.com):
> >
> >> But, regardless, your point is valid in that I'm not tightening down as
> >> much as I could.  So how about I don't change the security_netlink_recv()
> >> and callers yet, and instead I change cap_netlink_recv() to do:
> >> 
> >> 	if (!IN_ROOT_USER_NS && !cap_raised(current_cap(), cap))
> >
> > Actually better thought.  Remove the LSM hook altogether and just use
> > capable() in the callers.  This hook, being used this way, was
> > introduced in c7bdb545 back when we took the effective perms from the
> > skb.  We don't use the skb any more since netlink is synchronous.  This
> > is functionally equivalent except the capabilities code checks against
> > the init_user_ns (something we want) and it will now set PF_PRIV (which
> > also seems like a good thing) Something like:
> >
> > security: remove the security_netlink_recv hook as it is equivalent to capable()
> >     
> > Once upon a time netlink was not sync and we had to get the effective
> > capabilities from the skb that was being received.  Today we instead get
> > the capabilities from the current task.  This has rendered the entire
> > purpose of the hook moot as it is now functionally equivalent to the
> > capable() call.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>
> 
> Acked-by: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
> 
> Darn.  I missed this one went it went past the first time.  Let's do
> this.
> 
> As Serge pointed out checking against the user namespace of the network
> namespace happens to be safe because the subsystems that are brittle
> really have problems don't support multiple network namespaces.
> 
> Still I like the idea of erring on the conservative side here and
> making everything safe.  We can open relax the restrictions later
> by using ns_capable.  I want to get to a point where it is safe
> for an unprivileged user to create their own user namespace,
> and most of that is just getting the capable calls correct.
> 
> Eric
> --
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Ok.  Oh!  This was a part of my new 6-patch set I was going to send, but
when you pursuaded me that some were not worth it if you're rethinking the
nature of uids, I only sent patch 1.

I did queue up the patch at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=serge/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=b97c54cb518160466095db8f8d2ecf5bd4f81ce2
and tested it a bit in ltp (with userns both on and off).

Eric Paris, would you like to resend it separately (with Eric's and my
ack's, as above and at http://lkml.org/lkml/2011/11/9/195), or would you
like me to do so?

thanks,
-serge

  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-19 23:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-04 22:24 user namespaces: fix some uid/privilege leaks Serge Hallyn
2011-11-04 22:24 ` [PATCH 1/6] user namespace: make signal.c respect user namespaces (v4) Serge Hallyn
2011-11-09  0:22   ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-09 14:18     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-11-10  1:41       ` Matt Helsley
2011-11-10 14:27         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-11-04 22:24 ` [PATCH 2/6] User namespace: don't allow sysctl in non-init user ns (v2) Serge Hallyn
2011-11-04 22:24 ` [PATCH 3/6] user namespace: clamp down users of cap_raised Serge Hallyn
2011-11-06  1:14   ` Andrew G. Morgan
2011-11-04 22:24 ` [PATCH 4/6] Add Documentation/namespaces/user_namespace.txt (v3) Serge Hallyn
2011-11-04 22:24 ` [PATCH 5/6] user namespace: make each net (net_ns) belong to a user_ns Serge Hallyn
2011-11-04 22:24 ` [PATCH 6/6] protect cap_netlink_recv from user namespaces Serge Hallyn
2011-11-07 19:35   ` Eric Paris
2011-11-08  3:29     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-11-09 14:19       ` Eric Paris
2011-11-09 14:44         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-11-19  9:10         ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-11-19 23:25           ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2011-11-11  4:13 ` user namespaces: fix some uid/privilege leaks Serge E. Hallyn

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