From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] writeback: balanced_rate cannot exceed write bandwidth
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 22:04:37 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111122210437.GH8058@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111122064149.GA12864@localhost>
On Tue 22-11-11 14:41:49, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 06:50:49AM +0800, Jan Kara wrote:
> > On Mon 21-11-11 21:03:43, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > Add an upper limit to balanced_rate according to the below inequality.
> > > This filters out some rare but huge singular points, which at least
> > > enables more readable gnuplot figures.
> > >
> > > When there are N dd dirtiers,
> > >
> > > balanced_dirty_ratelimit = write_bw / N
> > >
> > > So it holds that
> > >
> > > balanced_dirty_ratelimit <= write_bw
> > The change makes sense, but do we understand why there are such huge
> > singular points? Are they due to errors in estimation of bandwidth or due
> > to errors in dirtying rate computations (e.g. due to truncates), or
> > something else?
>
> Good point. I'll add this to the changelog:
>
> The singular points originate from dirty_rate in the below formular:
>
> balanced_dirty_ratelimit = task_ratelimit * write_bw / dirty_rate
> where
> dirty_rate = (number of page dirties in the past 200ms) / 200ms
>
> In the extreme case, if all dd tasks suddenly get blocked on something
> else and hence no pages are dirtied at all, dirty_rate will be 0 and
> balanced_dirty_ratelimit will be inf. This could happen in reality.
>
> There won't be tiny singular points though, as long as the dirty pages
> lie inside the dirty control area (above the freerun region).
> Because there the dd tasks will be throttled by balanced_dirty_pages()
> and won't be able to suddenly dirty much more pages than average.
OK, I see. Thanks for explanation.
Honza
--
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-11-22 21:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-11-21 13:03 [PATCH 0/5] dirty throttling bits for 3.3 Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21 13:03 ` [PATCH 1/5] writeback: balanced_rate cannot exceed write bandwidth Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21 22:50 ` Jan Kara
2011-11-22 6:41 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-22 21:04 ` Jan Kara [this message]
2011-11-23 13:17 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21 13:03 ` [PATCH 2/5] writeback: charge leaked page dirties to active tasks Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21 21:49 ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-21 23:46 ` Jan Kara
2011-11-22 13:35 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21 13:03 ` [PATCH 3/5] writeback: fix dirtied pages accounting on sub-page writes Wu Fengguang
2011-11-22 0:11 ` Jan Kara
2011-11-22 9:21 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-22 12:21 ` Jan Kara
2011-11-22 12:30 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-22 12:48 ` Jan Kara
2011-11-22 13:02 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-22 12:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-22 13:07 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-22 13:41 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-22 13:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-22 14:11 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-28 13:51 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21 13:03 ` [PATCH 4/5] writeback: fix dirtied pages accounting on redirty Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21 21:51 ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-22 13:59 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21 13:03 ` [PATCH 5/5] writeback: dirty ratelimit - think time compensation Wu Fengguang
2011-11-23 12:44 ` [PATCH 0/5] dirty throttling bits for 3.3 Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-28 13:56 ` Wu Fengguang
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