From: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@onelan.co.uk>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Wen Yan Xin <WenYan_Xin@symantec.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Zongliang Li <Zongliang_Li@symantec.com>,
Gang He <Gang_He@symantec.com>,
Yong Jun Chai <YongJun_Chai@symantec.com>
Subject: Re: what's the replace for the big kernel lock after kernel version 2.6.39 for system call.
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 09:44:27 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201111300944.27607.tvrtko.ursulin@onelan.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111129214136.GR2203@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
On Tuesday 29 Nov 2011 21:41:36 Al Viro wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 01:03:07AM -0800, Wen Yan Xin wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have a trouble of working on kernel 2.6.39 and later. Originally when
> > our kernel module startups, it hooks some file system call, like
> > sys_open... , and the big kernel lock - lock_kernel() - will be held
> > before creating the hook to prevent user application use system calls,
> > and be released after the hook created.
> >
> >
> > But after the kernel 2.6.39, the big kernel lock has been removed. I'm
> > thinking there should be one or more lock that should be used.
> >
> > So, my question is which lock should be held now, when we hook the system
> > call of file system?
> >
> > I'd really appreciate your answer in advance.
>
> 1) your rootkit has always been racy; taking BKL does *NOT* prevent another
> CPU from entering a system call.
>
> 2) none; just don't do it.
Hi Al,
Why not be a nice guy when you already took the effort of replying and mention
fanotify? Because I am sure you know the history and when you see a security
vendor asking these things, you never know, maybe it fits their requirements.
Maybe it is not your favourite thing as well, but not a reason not to mention
it.
And strictly speaking, rootkits actively try to hide themselves hence whatever
unsafe, ugly and wrong stuff they might have it is not a rootkit. :)
Regards,
Tvrtko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-11-30 9:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <S1752501Ab1KYJXy/20111125092354Z+1871@vger.kernel.org>
2011-11-28 9:03 ` Wen Yan Xin
2011-11-29 21:41 ` Al Viro
2011-11-30 9:44 ` Tvrtko Ursulin [this message]
2011-11-30 13:56 ` Al Viro
2011-11-30 14:12 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
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